should Asians have made a stronger public stance on the injustices done to our people in this country? Against the anarchy playing out but the anger and protest is getting people thinking

We totally should!! However, the problem with us Asians is, we’re mad divided. The Koreans think they’re better than the other Asians. The Taiwanese want to be separate from the Chinese. The Chinese have their own cliques and don’t want to get involved because they going back to their homeland in 2 years. The Filipino are never anywhere to be found....etc. you get the picture. It’s super annoying that “Asians” never want to stand together.

Even within the black community there is an ideological divide. WEB Du Bois and Booker T Washington had this famous debate with Booker arguing for blacks to focus on education and accepting discrimination for the time being and pull themselves up to stand on equal footing. WEB Du Bois argued for strong political action and founded the NAACP. Most older Asian folk I know fully embrace booker’s ideology, but I think it can only get you 80% of the way there and our parents have gotten us there. The final 20% requires WEB’s way and I feel the younger generation of Asians is waking up and starting to take action to close the gap.

No one cares about Asians. If a cop has killed an Asian man I doubt any other race in this country would even look twice, and most likely scroll past the article.

I feel that the racism we face is much more subtle - so can’t really compare to the protests happening rn. But I agree we need to be able to unite and stand up together like other POC groups

Born and raised in the US, my experiences with racism from white people are often “indirect” but the direct racism that I can remember has often come from African Americans (calling me expletives) so I’m kind of like 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yes - racism and violence against Asian Americans is huge, and largely perpetrated by black people. I want all racism to end, and black lives matter, but Asians need to do much better to organize ourselves. Way too little representation in media and politics, and racism against us gets brushed away by liberals.

To be real with you, nobody gives a shit about Asian-Americans politically. Remember when COVID started to take off, and Asians were being assaulted and harassed in the streets? An overwhelming number of those perpetrators were black — and I don’t mean that as a way to judge a race as a whole. Everyone is their own individual. However, nobody made a political stink about it, especially Democrats, because it would have to acknowledge that uncomfortable fact. Likewise, when it comes to immigration and affirmative action policies, Democrats actively take stances against or apathetic to Asian communities. Pushes on identity politics and removing test scores (which Asians excel at), hurt Asian applicants. Similarly, when was the last time a Democrat gave a shit about Asians on visas? They only cater towards undocumented immigrants so they can feel like saviors and feel proud of themselves. Republicans... eh. Similarly apathetic at best, and their recent dances with racism and white nationalism are certainly damaging towards Asian Americans, but their pro-business stance does help build Asian communities. I absolutely support the protests over George Floyd’s death, but let’s not disillusion ourselves by thinking we have serious political clout. At best we’re political props for Democrats to play identity politics.

I think we can agree that police killing innocent black peoples is wrong. But at the same time, we shouldn’t feel obligated to be a punching bag for both white and black groups who want to define our racial issues and tell us we need to support affirmative action that hurts Asians or tell us we are privileged and don’t face racial attacks in America. We also shouldn’t feel bad telling the black community to stop targeting elderly Asian people. Racism isn’t black and white. Telling black or white people to stop targeting Asians is not racism.

Yes but it’s kinda not in our nature to be loud about social justice. We aren’t even loud for ourselves.

Yes. We all stand together

Yes we should be standing in solidarity with other minorities - or else it’ll always be divide and conquer used against us

If what you all say is true that makes us the most vulnerable. This apathy will keep us a target. Any ideas that would help bring us together? Saw the APARise, which is promising but still so small.

fuck yes #yellowperilsupportsblackpower

I would say we should be as loud and proud as black folks. We’re so timid.

Also immigrant Asians come from such different countries. Even Northeast Asia countries are so close yet so different, and we have on-going political issues in those regions that make it difficult for us to unite :( .. Whereas African Americans were (unfortunately) stripped of their cultural background when they were literally abducted to the US, and they formed a unified American African cultural identity. I feel like the most viable / realistic way for us to gain rights in this country is continue to work hard and move up the social ladder as much as possible and initiate change from the top

Thanks for teach us this bit of history. Will need to look into this. NAACP was founded in 1909. What will we do differently to affect change if even black people who had an earlier start haven’t yet succeeded? Or is this a losing cause? If losing, why are we investing our lives and those of our families here when we can all likely be successful in Asia/elsewhere?

Yes. Period. Why wouldn't we?