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Me too. Like why 😭
If you were a dessert what would you be?
Was this a phone conversation? Because I bet it was a classic homophone mix-up.
He was saying “you seem to not really KNEAD a man” AKA, you have a “I don’t give massages” vibe.
I think most men appreciate massages more than they let on. Swedish, shiatsu, Thai, you name it. My right shoulder was injured a few years back and I love when my partner gets into the deep tissue. But I’m not so great at asking for it.
So I would suggest using a pair of those metal hand squeezer things in public, to show off your grip strength. Maybe wear more loose fitting clothes and comfortable shoes, like a masseuse would. And always keep a travel sized tube of massage oil in you bag, in case of an unexpected meet-cute in the produce section.
Good luck!
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You are definitely a copywriter. 😆
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I started realizing the same in the fall of 2019. That’s when I signed up on a couple dating apps and started to date a bit. Only went out on two dates and one said “it seems like you’re really into your work” and the other said “it would be too challenging logistically for us to date”. At that point I decided I wanted to try dating someone who was also in consulting, since they would likely have a similar schedule, and know what my job was like.
I ended up meeting (and marrying) a Partner. It’s interesting because it’s the first relationship I’ve been in where it feels like I don’t have to carry the bulk of the responsibility. That’s led me to be more open emotionally and feel that I’m able to be vulnerable in ways I never was with anyone else.
Man here. I don’t want to be needed. I want you to share yourself with me. Nor am I needy - I don’t need or want you all day every day. I have a full and interesting life. But for the times when we are together, I want you to be fully present, fully open, fully honest, completely you. That’s baseline for any good relationship (for both of us).
You might ask him what it means for a woman to need a man. It can mean she is self sufficient and career focused with no room for a man. It can mean she appears satisfied with her situation and confident and wants for nothing (including a man).
Overall I would take the comment of seeming to not needing a man as a compliment. Usually if you appear to need something that implies you appear to lack something. But not you. You appear to have it all set and good.
Anyway, it’s not about what you need. Noone needs a man. You don’t want to appear to need a man anyway. Probably bad example, I dont need a sports car, but if I WANT one I will go shop for one, and I sure as hell hope I don’t appear to need one when I am at the dealership!
Preach! Came here to say the same thing. I don’t need to need something to want it.
That said, I have heard that there is some primal need for men to be needed. So maybe play to that a bit? Not damsel in distress style, but like clearly communicate what you want (someone to spend time with, come home to, share life with or whatever).
FWIW I’m 100% in the same boat with perhaps the added complex of not wanting to be perceived as somehow weak.
My guess is you need to make real or perceived room for the person you're interested in. I'm pretty independent but find my best relationships whether romantic or friends have been when I'm able to show that I need them too
This is what I find attractive tbh, owning and being yourself, knowing you’re badass without the need of any validation or approval. Idk if there’s enough context to assume this is how you are but there are people out there who like it. Unless I’m misinterpreting this. The “m*n are trash 💅” crowd is something I stay away from though
I don’t need a man, still happily married. Although I guess I did need his sperm (we have kids). But I think it’s great that you are giving things a hard look (if you really want to meet someone).
What Partner1 said: I do not need my husband, I want and choose to share my life with him. He values my independence and is well aware I would be all right without him, I think he kind of digs that. All the best to you, OP! I would not change who you are to conform to some idea that a woman must come across as needing a man to meet one, that does not sound healthy to me.
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I should add that he did say that desperation was unattractive. It's like they're some middle ground that's hard to find.
Somehow men can smell these things on women. I never see it.
He also said that I like to have fun and have a lots of joie de vivre but relationships are often boring and men with similar joie de vivre area often cheaters.
Google “Cher rich man interview.” Sums up my thoughts on being a woman who has her act together and doesn’t NEED a man, but can still WANT a man.