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So, I had to be away for two days. On my way back into town, I stopped at my classroom, just to make sure it was still standing. The sub had rearranged my stuff and taken candy (that I had intended to give to the office workers) and said she gave it to one of my classes. I am livid. Am I over reacting?

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I always let admin know when a sub has been disrespectful to my classroom. I make sure it is in writing. Unfortunately, subs are hard to find, especially good ones! Something that I have found that works (not all the time but most)… I send a video announcement to my class (only in days I know I won’t be there. If I’m sick then obviously I don’t do this). I make sure to put in my plans to play the video (I also send it to admin and ask her to make sure the sub shows it). It’s just a 2 minute video from me, reiterating our classroom expectations. I go do a brief overview of what they will be doing that day and what I expect our room to look like when I return. This mainly for my sub 😉 BUT the kids then keep the sub in line.

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That’s an amazing idea.

You are absolutely not over reacting! I would also be livid! What is in my classroom is there because I put it there, mostly at my own expense. I have things arranged where I want them and would expect that someone in my classroom, especially short term, would not move anything except passing out papers and returning them to my desk and possibly a pen or pencil. Anything that sub took/used/destroyed would be her responsibility to replace including the candy she gave to one of your classes. I would definitely ask administration to have a talk with her and request that she not be allowed in my class room ever again. You'll probably not get a replacement/reimbursement for that candy, but maybe she won't be allowed to do this in your classroom again. My school has really good subs on regular assignment so we don't have to rely on "off the street" people and I'm pretty happy about that.

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No, you’re not overreacting! A substitute is a guest in your classroom and should act as such. They shouldn’t be dispensing something you got or rearranging things. You wouldn’t be a guest in someone’s cubicle in an office and rearrange all their stuff. That’s so rude! Can you complain to your HR folks?

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No! I absolutely loath when subs take it upon themselves to do as they please. They forget our classes are funded by….us! Those are our personal items. Rage away!

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Loath...strong word....disappointing certainly...I am a teacher who chooses to sub and I am one that works to move forward the curriculum and have many regulars. If you don't have a sub system you appreciate....keep the lesson so tight there is no room for misunderstanding. The candy is unfortunate....for certain. If you find someone you appreciate...treat them well...offer them a suitable place for their belongings. If you are a person who has papers to the ceiling...treat them as a guest...clear some space. Leave them an answer sheet. Students expect a resource....and we can assist if we have the key. Give them material ahead of time. Remember we are judging you as you are judging us, and we do not have to accept any assignments from disrespectful and disorganized teachers. In Las Vegas, I could work everyday if I so chose. Your days off are either a waste of time for everyone or can be a day of movement and learning. I love guest teaching. We have teamwork here in sin city.

No. Your space, your instructions. Nothing about their job gives them the freedom to do anything other than teach your lesson plans and maintain order. You request that they never be allowed back in your classroom.

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No, ma'am, As the person that contacted subs, I would not allow her to sub in your class unless she was the last option. I would also talk to her about what she can and cannot do in a classroom. If she did it again I would exclude her from the call list. Let another school deal with that!

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No!!! We have a sub that does exactly what she wants and let’s the kids do what they want. And also tells the kids signals for when the principal is the building so they can hide their phones. I’ve learned to lock up anything I don’t want her messing with.

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Sounds like you need to have a conversation about the order and structure of your classroom. She needs to leave them as they were and nearly put them back

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I go back once and couldn't find any of the work I had left for my students (They were regular Friday tests). I saw the sub in the hall later (subbing for another teacher) and asked her where all the work was. She said, "I looked at it after they finished and it all just too hard for second graders, so I threw it all away." I actually asked her to repeat herself and then I asked, "This was all very simple review material that the kids absolutely knew how to do. Who are you to say that it was too hard?" She said, "Well, it was too hard for me." Addition fact tables, vocabulary, etc. I was floored. I reported her to our assistant principal and she was never asked back.

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Maybe not livid, but annoyed and frustrated? 100% I started subbing in my early 20's and before I had either a degree in education or any real experience as an adult in a school setting. The classes that were pretty self-sufficient left me lots of time at the teacher's desk. I clearly remember sitting at the messiest table full of paper, so my organizational side started twitching and I "helped" by sorting through the mess and putting like things together. I literally could think of NO reason why there should be multiple blank copies of the same thing scattered in a dozen spots. so together they went. I was so proud of how nice and neat it was when I finished. Until the next time I showed up to sub, and the admin asked me nicely not to touch teacher's things. Apparently, I had been reported for "meddling" or whatever. Guess what? I learned my lesson and now I let people keep their stuff as it was. I work in a library now. Other people using "my" space and "my" supplies when Im not around is a weekly thing, so Im used to it on my end. Subs are too scarce to be dismissed for rearranging a few things but a simple, "I appreciate whatever it was you were trying to do, but please leave things as they were" might be all they need to not do it again.

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Like what kind of rearranging are we talkin?

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This should have read…I’m glad my llama, which has been found and returned to its rightful place, has brung you such joy.

Was the candy in plain sight? I bet the kids begged her for it. But it wasn’t hers to give!

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The candy was in my desk, not on it.

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no you are not.

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I am a resident sub and I am sorry this happened to you. I take my job very serious and I know I am there to serve the students and teachers. It is our duty to cover the lesson plan given. I could never understand why some subs don’t! It then just becomes a babysitting job very discouraging. The fact that subs would go through things that don’t belong to them and have no business touching is beyond me! Dear subs stay in your lane and be mindful of what you are doing and what your purpose is!!!!

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Update: I tore my foot up last week, and while on a Zoom with my newspaper kids, I get a message that she was my sub and was rearranging my desk again.

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My gosh, okay you are going to have to hide a mousetrap or zapper in your desk under the candy.

Has she been reported before???

Be more explicit about what you want to happen next time. Perhaps that sub might want someone to reiterate what the expectation in the sub/para/teacher’s guidelines is.

I don't think you should have to put, "Don't touch the candy that clearly isn't yours ." In your lesson plans. That's common sense.

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As a teacher for many years, I relate to this post considerably. I’ve unfortunately had several students due over the years- accidental and suicides. It hits when you least expect it and you should grieve. Who cares what ppl think

I think this was in response to a different post

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Report said sub. In our district, such reports limits a subs assignments- for specific teachers, schools, or expelled all together. Of course depending on the infraction placed in report.

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