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I mean she might just want you to make the move to kiss her
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You’re being a simp. Kiss or gtfo
Next date at your place, and close the deal. In or out.
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Female here. During your dates, has she tried to get to know you or is it just about what she wants to do?
For me personally, not sure about other females, kissing doesn't really mean as much for me.. I've kissed guys I didn't really like just because I'm too agreeable and afraid of confrontation to push them away LOL but I've also not kissed guys I really freaking liked because I wanted to take it slow and make sure not to rush us into things we're not ready for. Every person is different, but every relationship in one person's life is also different.
So she owes you a kiss because you've paid? Okay....
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Cash, ass, or grass! Those are the rules!
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Old enough to know the rules!
You're not her date. You're her meal plan.
If it has been four dates and they are not at least offering to pay, it's probably best to leave it at this point. They're not interested in you and they are not feeling guilty about you paying for everything.
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Just point out to her that it’s unusual not to kiss for 4 dates and ask her what her apprehension is.
Looks like she’s making her asks clearly but you are hesitant to make yours.
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Don't point it out. That will make her think about friend zoning you. Just kiss her, or try and if she pulls away, you know it's over. Very simple.
Did you try to kiss her and she said she wasn’t ready for it? If you haven’t made the first move she’s probably waiting on you
Everybody’s different and I would advise not following a script and let the natural order of the relationship fall into place
Ask her about it. And trust your gut.
If she simply doesn’t like kissing (not everyone does) and displays her affection in different ways, talk to her about it. It might be a cultural thing, a personal preference, right opportunity hasn’t come up, or she doesnt like you (If you think she’s using you, ditch her)
But don’t follow a strict schedule or rulebook that’s so prevalent in modern dating. Follow your gut and heart
I’ve had long term relationships where we didn’t kiss until a month in and didn’t have sex until a few months of dating. I’ve had long term relationships where we fucked on the first date. Everybody is different and every woman is different.
My advice is to judge whether she’s trustworthy and compatible first. Is she shy to open up or is she using you? Only you know, us fishbowlers are not there. Don’t force it, don’t think about it but make the move when the time is right. If she continues to avoid kissing ask her about it. Be ready to move on if it’s an answer you don’t like.
I think it’s normal that women expect the other person to pay. But if that’s not normal to you, you shouldn’t go out that person again. You really want to meet somebody who complements your mindset. She’s traditional in expecting the man to always pay. That don’t make her right! If you don’t like it, don’t take her out again.
With the kissing thing. Never expect anything physical because you spent money. We’re not pr0stitut3s. That being said, I’ve never denied a kiss to somebody I liked.
Sounds like you got an escort…paying for her company at this point
I have respect for Escorts to compare these chicks to them.
Paying for dates is normal to me. I would expect a guy dating me to do the same ( at a certain point I would begin to cover some dates or spilt, etc. example would be one person gets the movie tickets, the other gets the snack) A kiss should have happened on the second date or after if you both feel comfortable.
If your date isn't at least offering pay/split by the 4th date, you're not their date. You are their meal plan.
Sack up, make the move. You’re about to be friend zoned. I always lean in for a kiss on at least 2nd date.
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Make a move. She probably just doesn’t want to be the first to go in for the kiss. I guarantee if she’s texting you consistently and trying to make plans, she does like you. If she didn’t care about you at all she wouldn’t bother making plans or keeping up communication. If she’s a conventionally attractive girl, she could find a new “meal plan” every night of the week if she really wanted (I disagree with the comments suggesting that she is using you for free food). It sounds like she is into you and is waiting on you to make a move.
Do you hold hands, hug, affectionate? Ages?
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My heart needs to be overflowing w love to wana kiss… that’s like month 3-6 type thingy for me
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Well how many times have you tried to kiss her? If it’s more than 1, then shes probably not interested
Next date at your place or her place. Sometimes “dates” don’t build a romantic connection if the atmosphere isn’t right. If she declines to meet at your place or her place, I would end it. If you have a date at your place/her place definitely go in for a kiss however - if by the end of the night you feel there was never a right time or that there is no romantic connection even being 1:1 in your apartments, then that’s your answer… let her know that after 5 dates you have enjoyed her company but don’t see it going anywhere. There is nothing wrong with that!
It might just means that she’s a traditional person and it’s your call to decide if you’re ok with it. As a traditional girl, if I offer to pay during early stage of a relationship, it just means that I’m not that into you and I’m ready to get out because I want to draw a clear boundary line financially.
Interesting. I offer to pay when I do like someone. Not the 1st date but definitely by the 3rd or 4th. If I’m not into a person, I usually know after the 2nd date. If I don’t like them in that way, I wouldn’t continue to go out. If I’m unsure I try to spend more time having meaningful conversations before continuing to go on date after date.
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So.... is the real issue about kissing or equity? cus it sounds like you're mad that you're giving more than she is (you paid for the all the dates AND probably planning them too). If you see potential, then I would suggest something that's non-sexual. 4 dates really isn't enough to get to know someone. Either way, worth reflecting.