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Some people just have it all. The partner that I work with is on fast track. Became partner in late 30s (no mba). Has multiple kids and is also a talented artist. How do these people manage to have a very good family life, also be on fast track in the firm (which means spending endless hours ) and also do something they love (sing, paint, dance) on the side? I have one kid and I don’t seem to find any time outside of work and spending time with my kid

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Life may not be as perfect from the inside. Some people are good at showing the world only positive aspects of their life

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This person may have a ton of help for the kids (eg a fully time nanny) or a partner that stays at home. Doesn’t mean they are able to spend true quality time with their family

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I worked at BAH years ago and I worked under a dude who made partner (principal there) at 32. He had six kids and was heavily involved with his church and, I think, Boy Scouts. He set very strict guardrails around family and non-work time, and would work late most nights after the kids went to bed. It was a tough balancing act for him.

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There were trade offs, in sleep

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Some people are just very talented. I wouldn’t necessarily assume that there’s some big dark side you aren’t seeing. I’m no good at art, but am good enough at my job and at setting boundaries to have a solid amount of time with my kids; stay fit (mostly), and have leisure time w/my wife. I also do most of the cooking for our family. It isn’t so possible if you’re commuting or on the road all the time and working 65+ hours a week unless you’re one of those people who can somehow get by without sleeping. But in the WFH era, working 55 hours a week with no commute/travel and sleeping 7 hours each night leaves 64 waking hours near home each week to do other things. That’s plenty.

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Speaking just about the fast track part--at most firms, making partner in late 30s, presuming they started out of undergrad, is not on the fast track. Partnership tends to be a 12-16 year track for most people. There can be variations from firm to firm depending on leveling, but across the industry outside of MBB 12-16 years is the standard timeline for college hires.

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If they came in at entry level, that's still not really the fast path. Towards the slightly quicker end of the bell curve, but well within the normal timeline for most firms. 🤷

Look, we all have the same 24 hours in a day. Some people love what they do and can’t stop working. Literally. Like up at 2AM doing crap.

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….and some people only need 6-7 hrs to sleep. Others, 9+

There's always more to the story than just the glitz and glamour. Maybe he's a bad or absentee parent. Maybe he outsources child-rearing to a nanny team. Maybe he is embellishing. Maybe he pops uppers to work and downers to rest. Maybe he is headed for a heart attack at 40. I'm not saying that any of the above is true or will be true, but we all know someone whose life seems great except one or more of the above.

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Probability, based on my understanding of consulting firm partner, principal and MD gender distribution. Fwiw, I believe what I posted is relevant for people of all gender identities.

Do you know for sure he has a good family life from witnessing it firsthand, on a repeated basis? More likely than not you're comparing your full life to his highlight reel -- i.e., there are things that are hard for him that you don't see. Or, less likely, it could be he's one of the lucky few who have found great career success and balanced home life. In my experience, this is possible (with a fair bit of luck and talent) but not common.

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I get the fast track. I get the side hobbies as well. What I don’t get is. How does having 3 or 4 kids not take up your evenings and weekends? Where is the time to work on firm initiatives? But one thing for sure. I look up to them as an inspiration to manage my day better and maybe have a second kid

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I have a stay home wife.

Partner in late 30s and fast track are mutually exclusive

He may not even have it all. It may seem like he does from the outside. But you’ll never know what he got going on in his private life.

Partnership is really all about people. This talk about timelines and shit don’t mean anything. If people who are partners at a firm want you to be a partner, then you will be a partner. It could be a week or 50 years. There’s no such thing as a “fast track”.

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