Stay for the mentorship or leave for the money?

I'm a Sr. copywriter getting underpaid at a network agency. I've been talking to recruiters, and it seems like I could get a 25% raise if I seriously applied myself and made a lateral move - most likely to an indy.

However, my current agency has been explicit about training me to be an ACD. They love my work and make no bones about saying that they see me in that kind of role.

What would you do?

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If you're an underpaid senior, you'll likely be an underpaid ACD.

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Never leave for a job unless you know you can make good work there. Leaving for money can wind up being a dead end, and cost you money in the long run

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Right, but my reply was to yours that stated “never” do it. If you’ve got guts, why not?

Get the promo, then get the money somewhere else.

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Depends on what your short and long term goals are. A lot of people are faced with these types of decisions throughout their career and it all depends on what you think moves you closer to your personal destination. If you feel like you need more mentorship at this stage in your career and you really think staying can benefit you more, then stay. If more money in the immediate future is more important to you, then go. This is really only something you can decide.

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I know money is important, but do you like the current work you’re doing? Ask for a career map so you have an idea of their growth plan for you.

I don’t know how well ACD will translate if your agency is known for giving people inflated titles or if you role doesn’t align with a future ACD role you may want to apply for.

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THIS!! I have a sr. CW friend who’s about to get promoted to ACD simply bc of promotion cycles. She unofficially manages a team but has effectively no other experience that would qualify her for the role. Then doesn’t get why she’s not getting far in interviews for ACD positions elsewhere.

Ask them to put a clock on it. If the can't commit you they're just gassing you.

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