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The only explanation for meeting billing requirements: everyone lies.

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It's not hard to hit hours if you are busy and you actually record your time. If you didn't bill 10 hours today, is it because you didn't have 10 hours of billable work to do? Did you ask for more work? Did you get it? If not, why not? If you had 10 hours of billable work, but you didn't do it, why not? Do you do that everyday or most days? If you worked 12+h, was at least 8 of it billable? Did you use timers or other methods to record all of your working time, and did you enter it ideally the same day and no later than 10am the next? If your group doesn't have work, find a new firm or look outside your group. Referral bonuses are higher than ever for good talent. Ask your friends from law school. Hopefully they will be elated to refer you. If your group has work and you don't, is your work product timely and of high quality? Do people want to work with you and hopefully like (but at least not dislike) you? (I am assuming you are not a brat or jerk, but it's a fair question.) Do you know enough to be helpful, without a ton of instruction to get started? If you don't, take CLEs or find a senior associate to mentor you. If you had work and you didn't do it, are you being entitled and lazy? Perfectionistic and procrastinating? Are you "saving" it for another say? Get your mind right. If only 2/3 of your day was billable, figure out how to get your percentage of billable time up, ideally to around 85%. Unsubscribe from useless trade pubs. Create rules for other dithering emails you don't need to actually read. If people ask for help all the time but don't give you a CM, allow them two quick questions, and if they ask a third, your response should be, "Happy to help with that. What's the cm for my .2 on this?" If they don't give it to you, "I'd love to help with that but would need to spend some time on that. Please let me know if you get client clearance for some budget on this question." Use your assistant for nonbillable administrivia. If you are spending a ton of time on IT issues, call the Help Desk every time until it is fixed. Log your time on IT separately from other administrative matters. Persist until they fix it. If you are writing a lot of client alerts or marketing material, the next time you get a request, say, "I would love to help with that, but I am becoming concerned about the ratio of my time on non billable to billable matters. Do you think this will lead to that? Do you have anything right now that I could also pick up that is billable?"

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I kinda agree with OP, to be honest. I think many (but certainly not all) associates are doing some creative billing. I think a lot of associates also have every incentive to say they’re busier than they actually are. And I think some portion are actually telling the truth and are super slammed.

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…..yeah…I don’t know wtf you’re talking about

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Ever hear the saying “the reward for good work is (wait for it)…more work!” If others are making hours, see above. If others are not making hours, see another firm.

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I dunno, have you been a transactional attorney in 2021??

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1.5 years of backed up dealflow plus a bunch of stimmy money and realized gains from the market resurgence….lots of money sloshing around with investors and lots of people who have been waiting to sell for two years. Equates to lots of legal work on the deal side. Make that hay while the sun is shining!!

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It’s actually possible to bill accurately and meet hours for the price of giving up absolutely every other aspect of your life. Remember: “this firm is like a family” (because you don’t get to spend time with your real one)

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Lol looks like we are all behind our desks today entering back billing for July. Camaraderie at its finest.

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If you seriously can’t hit a minimum billable hour requirement, then you’re either (1) at a firm / in a practice group with a serious deficit of work (if so, get out and come to my firm bc we need u), (2) not billing all your time (in which case, you’d still be able to understand how meeting the min is feasible w/o BSing) or (3) lazy AF or naively unaware of the actual work required/expected from you to do this job and compensate for that by dubbing your colleagues that actually do the job their paid to do as “liars”

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Really? 😂 you know tons of associates don’t hit their hours. It’s a pretty typical thing if you look at the data. At my firm about a quarter of associates don’t hit the target and I wouldn’t say many of them fall into the three categories you made up

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True. Also here with some popcorn for the “bUt ThAt’S uNeThIcAl” chodes who don’t get it but will inevitably flame you

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This made me chuckle. I guess some people haven’t experienced billing at circa 150% utilization throughout 2021 in transactional practices😑 (btw my bonus is not tied to hours) Not bragging bc this is hell but yeah…

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I don’t think this is true. I do think billing ethically and hitting 2000 is difficult, though, to say nothing of 2500 or 3000. I have been on 2500 and 3000 paces before for months on end and was absolutely worn thin and about to break down physically by the end of it. The people who are hitting 2400 a year while cheerily ducking out of the office each day between 6-7 (back when the office existed), while finding time to take care of themselves and their families? Yeah… I think there’s some creative billing going on there.

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Billing ethically and hitting 2000 hours is 50 hours billed a week with two weeks off. Not hard to do when you consider all of the twelve-hour days plus weekends we put in. 3000, yeah, that's some workaholic shit.

I wish I was lying about my hours.

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Eh some lie, most don’t. My favorite is people who are always “slammed” during the week and weekends but its because they procrastinate and only bill 40-45 that week.

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40-45 is a perfectly normal pace. You can credibly do 40-45 hours a week and say you are too busy for more than that. Especially if you are a parent or have big out of office commitments like civic work

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A lot of very busy lawyers have a serious bone to pick with this.

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We know 😑

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@c1 but also things that take a couple of hours can take much longer on less sleep.

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Always been that way. What do you expect when your bonus is tied to billable hours?

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True get out

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Just go to a more senior associate and discuss billing with them. They will explain to you how to best capture your physical acts as well as your mental acts. Both of which are why we get paid.

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😳 Whaaaaaat?!?!

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