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Mentor
Trust me, you are lucky you aren’t at an NYC V10. That will take years off of your life.
Mentor
Just billed 30 hrs over the last three days. Going in-house. You can have my spot. 😈
Ooph. My bad. That’s terrible. I have a 14 hour a day once a week, but anything over 70 billable hours a week is totally brutal.
Mentor
*54,302 disaffected NYC Biglaw associates have entered the chat*
A dream that you never wake up from
Then make it a reality. Market is crazy right now so those who may not have been able to access prior … well different story now. I have seen this type of scenario throughout my career. Depending on what u do, a specialty will be overwhelmed with need and all of a sudden C students are in. The difference today is I have never seen a need so great across so many disciplines. The opportunity is there. What u do with it is up to u. Stop dreaming.
I’ve been hearing this, yet still don’t gain traction :/
What type of firm are you at now and what is it about a V10 that you are looking for?
Enthusiast
Yea, please let us know, OP. Plenty here are happy to help! And you might even be helping them, referral bonuses being what they are now.
OP, I hear ya. I know you won’t listen to me, but hear me out. I had a job making 35k right out of undergrad. I did it for three years. I decided to go to law school and dreamed of making $160k as a starting salary (which is now $205k). My 1L grades were middle of the pack at a T25 and I completely struck out at OCI. I worked for a mediocre firm in a mediocre town my 2L summer. I crushed it 2L and 3L and was able to get a job as a staff attorney at an AmLaw100 firm. Got promoted to Associate after a year and a half and lateraled to a V10 in NY after four years. Been here for almost a year and I’m absolutely miserable. The money means nothing to me because I have no time or energy to have fun with it. Knowing what I know now, there’s no amount of money that would make me do it all over again if I had a choice.
Mentor
Senior counsel. They do what they’re good at, are paid well, can usually push down work to associates, and don’t have to deal with client development or admin work. Of course, they could be pushed out if things take a turn, but I haven’t seen that happen unless the senior counsel is not very good or not hitting their hours.
Why is it a dream? It’s a nightmare I would say
Luckily, science teaches us that nightmares are simply a type of dream!
Honestly, if all hiring decisions were up to me, I’d hire someone who dreamed to work in biglaw over someone who was more qualified to work in biglaw. I was in a similar boat — much less qualified than most candidates they talked to and hired but I really really wanted it and now I’ve been here 4 years and am one of the few left from my starting class. So much of this job is dependent on work ethic and drive rather than intelligence (though not saying you can be dumb as a rock obviously), but the ones that truly feel lucky to have the job and they want to take advantage of an opportunity they’ve been given to learn as much as they can, are the ones who I think succeed in the long term and don’t burnout along the way.
Mentor
Working with an entitled rich kid now and I already want to fire him. 😭
LOL this made me laugh for the first time today on my 14th hr mark.
Enthusiast
Better to see it as a reminder that your worst day is somebody else’s moonshot. It’s actually pretty humbling.
There’ll be tears all right..
I went to big law for the money, hoping I will last 3-5y. Over 5y later still here. I’m talking about leaving since y2. It’s a trap in a way, golden cage. Big majority of big law lawyers I speak to aren’t happy and have big plans to leave. But it’s really hard to actually do it and leave. Our livestyle makes no sense to non-lawyers looking in. We pride ourselves with huge billables, saying that 10h/day is standard. We are trully a pathetic bunch. We have no hobbies and don’t even know who we are outside of work.
Mentor
In my case, I love both the money and my practice. I’m angling for a counsel position so I don’t have to bear the scarlet letter of being a 12th year associate. 😛
Coach
Have at it. Seriously. If you are into that, go get it.
Aw, OP, I hope you achieve your dream!
Awww OP. I hope you find something better than the hell that is NY big law!
Nightmares are also dreams.
Lol.
Coach
OP aka Partner - your trick won’t work, we know it is you 😑
I’m with you OP. I went to a regional school and somehow managed to land a gig at a fed agency in DC. I dream of the day the I finally land that V10 gig.
Coach
I’m trying hard to go in house. You can only do this job so long