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I’d find a way to get invited to lunch
Call ethics hotline, report the facts, and let the company take it from there. Don't talk to anyone else about it, otherwise you're putting them on the spot. By calling the ethics hotline, you do what you're supposed to do for the company, the person with the problem, your coworkers, and yourself.
But isn’t that his call....you’re kind of forcing the company to take an action that he may not react well to.
That’s his aftershave - Partner Track by Tumi
Although he may have switched to the new summer catalog - Regret by Allen Edmonds
I'd tell another partner and let them handle it.
Sounds like you’ve been going to the wrong lunches
No. Mind your own business.
Also, 1 drink at lunch is ok in most parts of Europe.
H1, this post isn't about me but here's the answer:
No. Mind your own business.
He's an alcoholic. You have no obligation to fix that, you can't fix that, you don't need to tell him that you know. There are two areas where you might do something. One is, are there actions you need to take to protect yourself? Like, if you work together, I would assume a level of unreliability and make an extra effort to document your side of the work. Also, you can think about giving another partner a heads up. The more senior you are and the more invested in the success or failure of the work he's doing, the better of an idea I'd say this is. Alcoholics are a big risk. If you do, keep it neutral. Just what you've witnessed. Don't suggest a course of action. Don't use the word alcoholic or diagnose him in any way. "I've noticed this and I'm bringing it to your attention." Maybe they'll care, maybe they won't.
OP it’s for sure a case of if you do decide to act, you’re doing this out of love for him and your Firm, not “tattling”. It’s a physical problem; people tend to attach morality and/or willpower to substance abuse. Compare his symptoms of leeching processed booze through his pores to something else like passing out because of diabetes or having dizzy spells because of low blood pressure. Guy is in emotional and likely physical pain in his private moments, it’s no joke. Whether or not he gets help is ultimately up to him. Some people never reach their personal rock bottom.
Ok i think we’re forgetting that the client relationship could be damaged if he comes in extra drunk one day and makes a mockery of the firm? Definitely call hotline, say you may be the only one that’s noticed but just want to bring it up in case there’s any preventative measures that can be made, etc.
Definitely a health concern and optics concern for your firm if one of the top guys is crossing some lines that a normal employee would be questioned for
Offer a mint?
God, “call the ethics hotline”? These are the people who call the hoa when your grass is an inch too tall.
If it’s a violation of Uncle D’s policies you should be able to report it anonymously to your Ethics hotline.
Tell him to switch to vodka
Vodka leaves an odor.
EY4 and OP
Speculation on what the Partner’s problem is, does not help.
OP - read APR203. You have a responsibility to report. Do not send him an anonymous email from a burner account- it won’t help. In a case like this, to remove all possibility of negative consequences for you, you could use the Integrity Helpline to remain anonymous.
Go to www.integrityhelp.com
OP - he will not get into trouble, it’s a disability - and a liability for the firm. If he’s going to his car because he “forgot something” and comes back reeking of alcohol - he is fully aware he has a problem. My family has alcoholics and we’ve also seen other addictions in younger generations. Making them aware that we know they’re high or drunk does nothing - they’re in denial and as others have said, they’ll just get sneakier. They need an intervention and that’s not your job. It’s HR’s job.
Lots of advice out here , some good some terrible. @OP I would recommend either one of 2 courses of action. 1- talk to a senior manager or pped that is close to this partner but also close enough to you to give you air cover. 2 - If you do not know such a person then simply call the ethics line and go about your business as usual.
Please note: do not do step 1 of you plan to do step 2 because in that case you are exposing yourself to potential retaliation because when ethics steps in the partner knows who it was!
If you go down step 2 and don’t see changes within a month , I would say request a project change on some innocuous grounds such as looking to broaden your skill set or align with a project closer to your skill sets.
I think he meant if you talk to someone about it and then call ethics they will know because of the person you talked to.
DO NOT mention this.
I guarantee you if it’s that obvious - the other partners know and it’s a dirty little secret.
If you mention it - it MAY end up with folks taking action against him but it will just as likely (more likely) end up screwing you over. If you’re uncomfortable working with them try to change projects.
That's a danger. That's why if you do this, you don't make a big thing about it, you make clear that you're bringing it up once and then dropping it. Because it's not your obligation, really. I think it's totally possible they've noticed and don't care. But even if that's the case, you pointing this out could make them realize everyone else knows and reevaluate how they're handling it.
Ignore it... or Vick’s under the nose.
Agree with C2. Call our integrity hotline. You will remain anonymous and they will carefully research facts.
Yes. They will. You should report it ... if he’s as bad as you say, they will find out and take appropriate action (which will be handled as a health concern, not a “sin”). You don’t have to leave your info either (don’t call from your cell phone though ...)
No dude don’t say anything. It’s going to come off as you calling the partner an alcoholic and he will 100% not like that and will find a way to tank your career
So he issue is.....? Would you say the same about someone who smelt of a strong lunch odor? Someone who smoked a cigarette? Sounds like you need a drink at lunch!
GM 1 just no
I would not. Smell is actually one of the least reliable predictors — most people smell the morning after a heavy night of drinking. And it’s easy to swear it’s hand sanitizer, mouthwash, etc.
Unless it’s impact performance and you can point to clear examples you the person is late, slurring, forgetful, etc, you may be assuming something you don’t know.
@M5 Lol. Not policing at all. I work with the man everyday. You can't forget the smell and I would notice it when he comes in the morning. It is impacting me if I'm avoiding him because he reeks of alcohol and clients notice, which would be considered a distraction at work. Seems like someone's sensitive due to personal reasons.
Let the man be