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This has probably been asked so many times, but which big 4 should I am for? I'm a 28 yr old female with 4 years consulting experience in public sector at a tier 2 firm. Arts background/musician. Cont

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Accenture. Accenture Federal Services, specifically. The hours are typically normal 9-5 with government work, generally no travel, not as much networking/team bs compared to the commercial side. Great opps to get involved with internal I&D work.

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Also, happy to provide a referral upon review of your resume. Just message me.

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I've bounced around the fed space here in DC, both at the big name and boutique firms. I would say AFS or BAH are probably going to be your best bet in the short term. GH is an option, but I've heard it can be challenging as the company figures out what it's doing; if they can figure it out, that's probably another good option. Deloitte can be a hit or miss place depending on where you slot in and what you do and has the worst WLB of the big name non-MBB firms in the fed sector, or at least it did when I was there through (I left 5 years ago, so things might have changed; I'd look for current D and other B4 staff to confirm). Very easy to get stuck on unfulfilling work or aligned to a type of work you don't want to do (e.g. when I was there, I worked with a bunch of people who were shoehorned into 100% Oracle implementations when they wanted nothing to do with Oracle). Also a significant portion of D staff are alpha personalities; if you can work well with them, not a problem, but just be aware of that. BAH *generally* has a noticeably more collegial atmosphere than D (exceptions exist, of course, but by and large that was my impression from my time at BAH) and has a pretty big emphasis on D&I. I was quite happy with the quality of employees I worked with there, from entry level staff up through principals. Starting pay is generally lower in equivalent roles comparing BAH to the other firms, though there's no up or out model until you get to the VP+ levels and the overall pay bands are larger at BAH than the others, which comes into play if you stay at a given level for a long time. If you're open to looking at smaller firms, I've heard Slalom is a good option, though I don't have any first-hand experience with them.

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Yes, this is so helpful!! I really appreciate all the details you provided! I have both AFS and Deloitte in process right now so I'm going to continue with those. A recruiter offered to send me a link to the BAH talent portal so I may check that out. You know, I have not looked into EY yet; some old co-workers weren't the biggest fans. But based on all the positive comments here on EY they are definitely on my list now.

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I think you’d love EY from a cultural perspective—federal is a huge growth area and EY is very invested in WLB, as well as encouraging people to bring their entire selves to work and introduce fresh perspectives.

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I’m a woman and have been at EY for a year now and it’s the best I’ve been treated in my 10 year career in tech. @C1 sure, send me your resume!

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Doesn’t seem like PwC would be a good fit

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Would not go into big 4 or consulting! Find a boutique or private company focused on quality and innovation. Does not sound like large firm is good for you.

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I think they meant a large firm is not good for you :) Not that you’re not good for consulting. You want a less competitive environment, want to do meaningful work, hav me better work life balance and a more human culture. All these things are not what big firms are known for :)

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I mention the background as it informs my personality - I've realized cultural fit is of huge importance. I'm liberal, passionate, introvert, hard worker, willing to work long hours if I'm doing worthy work, and a big supporter of inclusion and diversity. Prefer to not spend all my time with coworkers after work. Don't mind some travel, I have some health ailments that occasionally cause me to miss work so I need a supportive environment occasionally for that. I have a great track record in consulting, I've moved from intern to senior consultant in 4 years. Making $91k now and I would be okay with a lateral move. I'm focused on getting into a federal practice. Leadership at my current company is borderline discriminatory, and just not what I look up to. I've never worked at a big 4 so I don't know the slight differences. I'm focused on DC but would be happy in any big city. I want to be somewhere where the quality of all employees is a given. Talent at my current company is lacking.

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Accenture has a large federal practice

You're at a tier 2 firm? Are you considering Big 4 tier 1

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Yes I'm at North Highland. I'm interested in tier 1 and big 4. Looking for a change. Somewhere where I'm surrounded by smart people and inspired, and challenged more.

Accenture or EY if you want big firms. EY has a good culture, WLB and federal. Accenture is big on I&D, does lots of things, and you can find your niche. Culture is good. But not sure how federal would be at either place

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Honestly would look for smaller boutique firms that focus on work life balance via local projects. Deloitte is a great firm but really hard to get your personal needs met via the type of projects you’re staffed on until you really build a network/trust in the firm. And because it’s so big, there are lots of crap projects (I.e., not fulfilling work) you could easily get pushed into as a new hire. Leadership here pretends like they value external experience but they don’t want to risk staffing you if it’s your first engagement at the firm.

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Our firm is much smaller than 300k (consultants only, I mean) but 100% agree with your point. $1 = $1 whether it comes from strategy or tech or something else

We would love to have you at Deloitte. I wish I had contacts in our GPS practice. Hopefully some PMD sees this and gets you an interview. The most well-written post I’ve seen on Fishbowl in quite some time - worth at least an interview.

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Thanks for such kind words! I do have an old co-worker at Deloitte that is going to refer me next week. He hasnt been there long though, and isn't sure he will have much leverage in the process. I know there are mixed reviews on this thread; however I hope for an interview so I can discern for myself! That being said, if there is anyone here that is a PMD or close, the extra support would certainly help.

Why limit yourself to Big 4?

I'm not. I have applications pending at mbb and Accenture, actually. Big 4 has been recommended to me several times, and I can't tell the true differences between each. I'm trying to make very tailored resumes etc for each company I apply to, and I'm trying to find the unique differences of each company and nuances that make me passionate about the company.

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I'm at North Highland Consulting. Now that boutique has come up, I'm actually unsure if NH is classified as tier 2 or boutique? Thought the additional info may be helpful for context.

Never heard of it. Not T2.

Agree on ACN and EY recommendations.

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