This industry is exhausting. People constantly complaining when they do not know how good they have it. IMO most of you are lucky you have a job that you can even remotely do something you love.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Taken advantage of? Or a misunderstanding of the fundamentals of business? Some creatives and developers bitch about anything and everything because they can’t comprehend the flow of decision making and the aspects of business.

like

Thanks, Dad.

like

Im sorry but if you’re apparently doing 80 hr weeks, which sorry, you probably aren’t. Then there is something wrong with your agency and how they plan/staff work, or you’re extremely inefficient. Instead of bitching - find the root cause and fix it.

like

Well, I think we all expected a more articulate response than that from a copywriter. None the less you've missed the material point. This work is pretty easy to love given the range of options. And, if you don't the fault is entirely your own. The age range above reflects those who realize this simple truth and those who think it's someone elses job to make them happy.

This later group will eventually mature but it will hurt. Savor the heartache - it will define you.

like

Totally agree with you. Lot of people just complaining. I have friends with shitty jobs who would love to have half of what we have.

like

I agree 100%

like

I think most people are just blowing off steam and joking around (I hope). It's like stand up...right?

like

I think it's nearly impossible to find a profession where a large amount of the people aren't complaining. At least in American culture it seems like that's just the way it is. The grass is always greener runs in the veins of capitalism. We inherently want more or want something better than what we have. The best you can do is what you're doing, work under/surround yourself with motivated people. As with anything in life. I was kidding about being 17 btw, I'm 26.

like

I want to work at sapientrazorfish

like

Even as a junior, there are a lot worse things you could do for 50k

like

I don’t think age really has anything to do with it to be honest. I’m 25, and I hear just as many young people complain as older people. Many times, older and complacent individuals complain in front of those they manage and it allows those younger individuals to begin the cycle of complaints. If you see a very positive, impactful manager, then most of the time their subordinates are very happy/motivated people. It boils down to communication and culture.

I’ve personally been blessed with an amazing manager who I know will continue to mentor me throughout my life.

like

complaining is different from constructively critiquing. complainers don't get promoted. it shows you're weak and unfit to lead. learn your shit without complaining, and once you do, speak up to make change. ours is an idea industry, and your ideas will be heard, and acted upon if they're constructive and presented coherently.

like

Putting in the hours equivalent to two weeks of work and only getting paid for one week

like

People complain because they're not doing what they love you clueless asshat

like

I agree. But problem is, people recognize this and take advantage of us because we’re doing what we love.

like

And I repeat SOME

like

@OP Yes, lets find the root cause when your still working 50 and getting paid 40.

like

Fair enough. Be careful when you get off your high horse, though.

like

Just can't let em get you down

But I feel you

Related Posts

Does anyone know what license does one need to be a FA in UK?

like

I’m in a bit of a unique situation where I’m deciding between MBB and MM private equity (both NYC, I have ~2.5 YOE).

Main considerations are money and WLB, especially weekends. I’d be curious to hear perspectives on WLB differences between the two either anecdotally or from people who have experienced both. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

like

I'm being asked to be involved in product pricing for the first time, and lack any knowledge or experience in that area. Any suggestions on courses or books or websites? I'm considering the Pragmatic Marketing pricing course, so would be interested to hear from anyone who has taken it.

like

For value retention and a good first entry level watch. Which makes the most sense?
1: IWC Portugieser Chrono
2: Santos-Dumont Extra Large
3: Omega Speedmaster
4: Anything else worth considering (that doesn't require an extremely long wait time)???
PS I prefer a leather straps (black or brown)

Thanks!!

like

Summer Fridays: do you have to donate money to charity to wear jeans on Friday? I like to wear casual but I’m also cheap and don’t want to donate to a consensus charity that I’m not involved

like

Any advice on how to go about asking to switch partners? I've only been here six months. We don't vibe and I feel like it's limiting our abilities to make great work. A month or two ago I asked them..

like

Cctc:20.5 fixed
Exp:7years
Waiting for results from final round.

What can I give as expected CTC in JPMC during HR discussion?

like
like

Hey I'm a solo Attorney who does business law. Until now I've never litigated. However, it is something I would like to start doing. Does anyone have any advice on what to read or look to in order to be as prepared as possible. CA attorney if that helps. Thank you in advance.

like

Hoping to get my PHR in the next year or so. Outside of employer reimbursement, are there other opportunities for this to get funded? I know SHRM Foundation offers scholarships for the CP, but I am looking for PHR specific help. Thank you! :)

BCG: Do you get paid monthly or biweekly?

Recently started at a small secondaries PE firm in Boston from T2 consulting. Recruiters are still reaching out for summer 2023 starts for buyout firms. Should I hold out on trying? Maybe get a year of experience before responding to HH’s / recruit for immediate starts a year in?

like

Anyone have compensation experience as a Training Lead with some reports under in cruise industry or in general, what is a fair salary expectation?

Does anyone who made the jump to Corp dev with a much better wlb miss the fast-paced lifestyle of banking? And has it been that much better or is it a grass is always greener situation?

like

Do we have any RPA BA in this group?

RPA Business Analysts?

like

My HR round was completed on 14th November and asked to submit documents for mindtree but i have not received any offer letter, when can I expect my offer letter,? should I wait for the offer or not?

like

Is every tenancy paid twice a year? Do they not do it monthly? I’m planning to move but paying half the rent of the year in one go is going to be tough

like

Are any parts of South America a safe destination for a solo f traveler?

like

Anyone from PwC SDC?
What is the average salary of Senior Associate in Finance transformation?

like

Is anyone from Cognizant working on Dell technologies
Project. How is the work life balance there.

like

Additional Posts in Advertising

NOatly . That’s all I have to say.

likefunny

Industry-wide layoffs tomorrow or nah?

like

During the VMAs last night there was a car commercial and all I have to say is that if your brand is picking a 5 year old Sia song that didn’t even chart too well as a song for a NEW commercial, you need to tap into culture a little bit.

I’m begging for a world where we stop using songs like this and Roar by Katy Perry as the standard backing tracks for boring ads.

likefunny

Has anyone/does anyone work for Synergy Medical? What’re their benefits like? How’s the work environment, etc.

like

It's refreshing to see a 🏳️‍🌈 Month ad that's NOT just the product being rainbow-wrapped. What do you think about this tagline?
"A queer drink for diverse drinkers"

Post Photo
likesmartfunny

Etiquette for declining an offer - is an email ok or does it warrant a phone call? Do you need to explain why? Don’t want to burn a bridge.

like

Does international experience (media) even matter anymore in this industry? As in a US citizen working abroad then coming back to the states Any experiences to share on compensation, career growth.

like

I’ve been laid off and, as I embark on my job search, I’d like to keep my marketing skills sharp. Any recommendations on must read books, or resources?

like

R/GA layoff updates: 20 cut in Portland today, bringing stateside count close to 100 on the year. No official statement from Bob.

like

Is it common to reach out to talent agents/external recruiters and have them meet with you and then they never send any potential openings your way? Wasn’t sure if I am did something to turn them off

like

Anyone have a recommendation for books or resources on upping my sales game? Open to in person class, online class, books, etc!

like

Heard about layoffs at Digitas Boston today. Anyone have any info?

like

What is your agency’s maternity or paternity leave policy?

like

Politics aside (please), what's the strategy having ads set up like this? I've seen ones that are asking people to sign "happy birthday" to Trump. Is this really the best way to collect and survey?

Post Photo
like

It's layoff city here in Southfield.

like

How do we feel about JOAN?

like

“People Are Awful and Nobody Wins: A Real Life Guide to Working in Advertising”

likehelpful

What's everyone's thoughts on job hopping? How frequent is too frequent? Are there any benefits to frequent hopping?

like

I think some agencies are using Covid as a smokescreen for making adjustments that were needed previously, but would have caused a riot. Not all. Just some. Am I crazy?

like

Anyone know the severance at their agency? Curious what people experienced with lay offs - could be coming and want to be prepared

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Send download link to your phone

OR

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.

Messaging rates may apply

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal