This tax season is so terrible. I worked 75 hours last week and still have 4 business returns that have not completed yet. Client end has terrible turnover this year and sent us the PBC very late. Staff and senior keep complaining that they cannot finish before deadline. More ironically, while we are working our ass off, partners are enjoying their conference in FL last week. How “good” is that.

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This has been one of the worst years in my experience. The typical issues (client delays and staffing issues) have been significantly worse than prior years. Basically prepping all of my returns myself now.

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I have a similar situation. The weekend before 9/15, client demand the k-1s to be delivered on Friday but we still could not make it so we promised to deliver it on Saturday. I prep the return by myself late Friday night cuz my staff went offline and no one is helping me. I delivered the return to director the next morning for his final review. And guess what, he was not working until late Saturday night knowing he promised to deliver k-1s to client that day. And he finally get online at that night and approved the return without reviewing it . Lmao, worst director I have ever work with.

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Worked till 2:30-3AM the last two weeks. Logging 95 hours/week the last 3-4 weeks, will definitely be higher this week.


Our busy season hours usually are 85-95 hour weeks, but it started earlier this year and got intense faster.

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Wow… thank you for all these posts, they remind me of why I should stay clear of big 4

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I just cried 15 mins ago. Ppl are chasing me for return, estimates, new requests. Part of me wants to speed up and things done. Part of me just want to quit.

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I’m in the same boat currently. 4 returns I still need send to partner review, 3 sets of review comments I haven’t touched and just got info in for some last minute 1040 estimates. Going to just have to work through the night and hope it gets me close enough to make this deadline. Thinking this will be my last go around with public accounting. Only thing keeping me from just having a mental breakdown is the complete lack of fu*** given after 3 years of this same bs

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75? Really? Im sorry but for busy season that’s not killer. Side note my worst week was 114 and for a season was 80 hours a week average for 4 months (industry). Each were brutal, but i can do a couple weeks of 75 each year as long as its not consistent over the entire season.

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I’m just here to say. It doesn’t matter if you worked more hours than what the person is saying they did. Good job that you’ve worked more but they are clearly telling you 75 is not okay with them. They are trying to let you know that their body can not take it. They are not saying they are not willing to work and put in the work. This is the reason why we are experiencing extreme turnovers. It’s not okay. And no new staff can replace a senior, a manager, etc.

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3 hours of sleep last night. 9/15 is tomorrow 💀

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Saaaame

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And partners wonder why it’s so hard to find people to work these days.

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Up to the new generation to stand up to these awful hour norms.

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I agree we should!

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Ya years like these are not sustainable for long. Client’s are not helping either with their inconsiderate request at this hour.
One of my client sent out update transfer information yesterday. Man you had 8 months to figure that out but you still wait till 9/10.

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I work at BDO Btw

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Tax senior 1. I thought about the potential to expose myself. But the fact is, i really do not care cuz I can alway find jobs and there is always a job waiting for me. You know this is a industry that understaffed, correct ?

I’m in a situation where the senior said he is logging off at 5 and didn’t work weekend, telling me straight up I have to log off. We have a fire drill and it’s expected for this time around to be working late. I have that big return plus 4 other large returns to wrap up and don’t know what to do.

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That’s the thing with the new generation, they need transparency and will only work what’s explicitly asked not implied. I’m sure you have minimum hours so once they hit that, they don’t “need” to work anymore.

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I fee for you. People at Plante Moran are struggling also. I’ve worked every weekend since the 2nd week of July. I miraculously finished my last 2 largest S Corp returns today & they went into processing. Part of me feels guilty to not offer my help since I finished early but my 10/15 will be miserable. Honestly just try your best, there’s only so much you can do. No one is going to die over a late filed return.

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Partner asked the team today for a status update on 25 partnership returns that we haven’t even sent the client yet :) we’re just starting to send signature pages ahead of them even reviewing the returns

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Given most compliance has gone to fixed fee, I don’t think they care about amount of billable hours as much as how much revenue are they bringing in.
Not to be devils advocate but partners are focused on selling because that literally is what they are pressured to do at their firms. If that was your main metric, you would be focused on that too.
On the other end, staff commitment is down. People don’t come in with the idea of constantly looking to help or work more to progress faster because they don’t see the value. So they do what they are told and since we are so short staffed it’s allowed and the people that will do the work are picking up the slack.

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how is there any wonder there is a problem recruiting

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I fee similarly but i will say our partners were not happy at all about the conference.

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They could have skipped it. I have a partner that went offline on 9/2 and came back online today. This partner has ghosted me when I ask questions or for them to sign returns. It’s getting old. Some partners need to realize there is more to this job then selling work…sometimes you have to service YOUR clients. The ones you promised good service/quality.

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What can the partners do? Detail review a return or workpapers or efile the returns? Print returns and mail to client?

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Raise prices- hold clients accountable

I’m hiring! For anyone burnout of these crazy weeks I’m looking for people to join a team that prepares 1040’s and 1041’s only. My team isn’t working this many hours right now that’s for sure.

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Are you willing to train someone with little 1040/1041 experience?

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Simple solution = make partner

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Or quit

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Happy September 16th ... OP and the rest!
Every busy season is worse than the rest before... but this one was a wreck 😞... that's not over...

I wish we could all go drinking together!!!

I'm sure we'd have many one of a kind stories.

I'm sure something good will come out of this, whether... a job change, or less Fs to give.

When you work your a$$ off and it's never good enough, your a$$ is not to blame!

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If you are in Chicago DM me we can have a drink !

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Im lucky the partner in my accounts are not like that

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🤷🏽‍♀️ I’m still in the office currently. Just taking one project at a time till I get to the finish line. I think I’m at 14 hrs right now for today? Idk I lost count

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Partners may want to consider coughing up a nice early bonus as of November before the holidays..

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That’s just temporary, they will invest more resources in India since that’s longer term.

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