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To all my friends and colleagues supporting the D&I cause, I apologize for the rant but please know that this is important to me: We are Latinos, not Latinx. It’s not a description of gender, it’s a construct of “our” language to describe the plural in the masculine form. Spanish just be like that, as does French, Italian, and German (and others). Stop appropriating my language and adding your colonial English grammar rules to it. Please. Pretty please. With a great big cherry on top.

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Bisexual Latina here and I prefer “Latinx” because it is inclusive of those who are not gender binary within our community.

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@OP ...so what? Different places use different words. Hell, this is *especially* true for pronouns. Tú vs vos, Uds vs vosotros. It feels like you’re speaking for all Spanish speaking countries when in reality there is no such overarching “Spanish” you seem to think there is.

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What?!

I like Latinx when describing a group. As an individual person, I am Latina and not Latino. The term “Latino” most definitely gendered and diminishes women and other gender nonconforming people. It’s a fact and something that the academic linguistics have been arguing for some time now. It doesn’t bother me at all.

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B1 - te entiendo. Pero si estamos en un grupo normalmente se le dice “la comunidad latina”. En ese punto, yo de por si, no me siento incómodo insultado porque a la final ese es el léxico correcto. Es como decir “aqui en la comunidad latina representamos las culturas y diferencias de todos los latinos”. En esa oración el sustantivo siempre es el grupo de hombres y mujeres.

En mi opinión, esa estructura no quita ni disminuye nuestra representación.

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Jesus, sorry OP but this is like the 10th post I’ve seen where folks are arguing over what term they would like to be called. “Latinos” vs “Lantinx”. “Black” vs “African American”. The list goes on. Different folks seem to equally take offense and support each option.

Instead of screaming into the void, might I suggest just correctly people when they are talking to you? Explain which term you prefer and why

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OP I’m just pointing out that even though you don’t like the name of the group, I’d bet half of the folks in the group prefer that name. And your original post was way more than venting -you were trying to convince everyone that one term was more appropriate than the other, when really it’s a preference situation

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I’m used to this new way of changing letters in Spanish. I don’t know if this happens in all Spanish speaking countries but in Argentina there is a group of people trying to change all for the letter “e”. So, they call us “latines”. Has this already happened in your countries? I can’t get used to this and thought it was worldwide but a Caribbean friend told me the other day that in his country nobody says “amigues” or “Chiques” en lugar de amigos o chicos. So I realized it is probably only in Argentina.

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So I guess the question is, why do the vocal American Latinos get to rewrite the language? Why not just use Latin? Which, correct me if I’m wrong, is the a English form of the word. All I see are people who want to push their identity on to me. Y’all just want to connect to Spanish heritage without abiding by its rules.


Of course I’m just partially trolling. I’ve had a lot of conversations on this topic ever since I started hearing the phrase on alt-Latino. As a D&I lead I understand the desire to self-identify the way you feel most comfortable. However, I do feel like my more traditional point of view (I’m first gen border crosser) gets dismissed without a second thought. A bit hypocritical and honestly I expected better from my community.

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Thanks for sharing, D1!

totally understand OP's PoV but also consider valid people who would rather use Latinx to feel included. I see it more of a identity thing than an intentional way to butcher castellano. Also first gen immigrant here.

Fuck off, lmao. Your dismissal of language's constant evolution negates your "I am very smart" post attempt here.

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