To ease younger associates scared of losing their jobs at any moment, can we start a collection of instances where you’ve seen a firm actually fire someone? Like what kind of behavior warrants a firing?

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Sending a confidential internal firm email to Above the Law directly from her firm email account

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so she was fired for being stupid?

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When after feedback is repeatedly given and little improvement is seen. I do this for a living. Trust me—we’d rather see people improve and succeed. Every time.

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Being an associate during 2007-2009.

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Extortion/blackmail, things that could get someone disciplined by the ethics committee etc

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That is very encouraging

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An associate who started the same day that I did got fired because he expressly refused to work weekends

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More power to him - he clearly didn’t need the job to pay his bills.

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Trying to hack into the review database (and then lying about it).

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Whoa

As an associate you are a cog that exists for the firm to milk as many billable hours out of you as possible. That’s the game. So long as you bill and don’t miss deadlines or do terrible work product, or cause clients to leave, why would they fire you? You’re the product they’re exploiting!

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Fighting with managing partner about strategy for a matter. It was crazy.

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I didn’t get fired, just lost faith in leadership. I’ve been told I’m welcome back

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Very low hours compared to others in same practice group, missing important deadlines more than twice

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1) summer associate figured out during slow period that a practice group gave “busy work” that wasn’t actual client work in order to rank SA performance; searched document system to find previous years’ answers and plagiarized

2) checked out and billed 1200-1300 for two years and actively ducked work, got a review saying to get it together, didn’t, got three months to look before leaving

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Last associate fired was caught sexually harassing aspiring young attorneys at OCI…

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I’ve been wanting ask this very question

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A firm (TW 😉) in Germany let down all (!) paralegals because of Covid. The backlash was quite… something and now associates are leaving… yadayada.

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If my firm fired all of the paralegals, we would collapse in a day.

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We had a summer clerk 15 years ago who blogged about the partners and attorneys she worked with and it wasn’t a flattering blog. She was not asked back.

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Why would this be comforting

Really? Establishing an actual line in the sand is invaluable. These people are afraid to lose their jobs because they responded to an 11:05pm email at 12:01am on a Saturday night before a holiday monday. Hearing real instances of their fear gives them solace that they will not be fired for simply doing their best and trying not to lose themselves along the way. I could not fathom the big law life style, so I don’t know exactly what they are going through. But I love to learn about it.

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This didn’t involve an attorney, but involved an LA or paralegal (not entirely sure which, as it was before my time at the firm), but our OMP walked in on a staff member involved in a “sexual act” in one of the conference rooms with multiple members of the custodial staff. This led to the firm’s discovery that she also had a substance abuse problem - needless to say, she was let go very, very shortly thereafter.

Multiple members of the custodial staff? Impressive.

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