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Depends on the role. My current role is intense, closer to BigLaw hours. My earlier AGC and counsel roles had great work life balance.
At one point, one of my daughters feared I lost my job due to my ability to work from home and pop out for her school functions/sports events.
I took on my current more intense role as my youngest neared college. At that point in my career I was ready to take on something with less WLB but worth the extra effort.
I think it depends on how established the company and law department are. I worked in a larger department with generally good wlb, but I then moved to a startup with a law department of two (I report to the GC) and I work late most nights and at least a half day on the weekends (most weeks average 60 hours). It's tough and I'm a little burned out, but I really love what this company is trying to do so I'm sticking it out to see if things get better this year
Chief
I never work weekends, ever. I rarely work late. Many times I only do 1-2 hours of actual work in a day.
Heaven
Never any weekends, I’ll work late like once or twice a month (largely self-driven), and I spend about 6-7 hours per day in front of my computer M-TH. If I had to quantify, I probably “bill” like 4-5 hours a day. I log off around 1-2pm on Fridays. Very, very satisfied.
I also have notifications for anything work related permanently turned off (email, slack, etc.), so if I want to work after hours I proactively choose to.
Conversation Starter
It’s not 9-5 but it’s much better than my life in biglaw.
Try searching this Bowl before posting, someone asks about this almost daily.
Pro
That’s because things vary so much from company to company that generic answers are fairly meaningless.
My generic answer: my hours are very reasonable. 8:30 start time most days, and usually don’t work past 6:00, often not as late as 5:00, but with quick calls and e-mails after that time being not uncommon, and all of that being dependent on where my deals are. Occasional busy stretches when I’ll work late and on weekends happen.
Rising Star
Obviously, this varies from company-to-company and from team-to-team. I have a friend that went from law school to a small in-house legal department. His boss, the GC, was toxic. He was on-call 24/7, worked through every weekend, and often got calls that woke him up in the middle of the night.
I’m at a multinational company with a massive legal dept. I usually work 8:30-5:30. Occasionally, I work an extra hour at night or on the weekends to catch-up. I also some times only work half a day on Friday just cuz. One time I had to take a call at 7:30pm because I had to talk to India legal. I also have flexibility to disappear for a few hours in the middle of a work day and no one would care. And I can take vacation without responding to a single email the whole time.
We are always hiring! There are openings right now on my larger team, but not my direct team. Second year is on the younger side of YOE, but you can always try now. If it doesn’t work this year, just try again in another year.
WLB is great. I work maybe 20-30 hours a week, no weekends and no evenings. Coming from a firm with billables and I’m living the dream. (Base salary is much less at about 170k but it is so worth it)
Ditto
My wlb is excellent. Log on by 9 and log off at 5:30. Rarely busy or overwhelmed, and not a ton of unnecessary meetings. Only worked a couple of weekends last year.
I’m in pharma, formerly big law, and it’s night and day. WLB is amazing. I never work past 5:30, never on the weekend. Lots of flexibility about when I work. Overall I don’t regret the move at all.
Same as Senior Counsel 1. And yes, I'm satisfied.
Very satisfied with my WLB, rarely work nights, generally don’t even check emails on the weekend.
100% Went in-house a little over a year ago and think I worked about 4 hours on a weekend once to meet a deadline, and only because I fucked off for part of the week. I've worked some nights, but mainly just to make the next day easier on myself, not because I had to. Completely different animal than big law and I'm here for it.
Pro
Very satisfied. Work 10-20 hours a week and the boss is super chill and still appreciative of the good work I put in
WLB is incredible. Get on at 7, sign off at 4. Never work weekends. Also helps when your boss signs on at 9 and leaves at 3:30
Pro
I'm very satisfied with wlb
Satisfied. Solo in-house so good variety, no budget, manage firm outside counsel (and treat them as I would want to be treated), set my own hours, flexible WLB.
I’m in the federal government and have a great work-life balance. Rarely work late (unless I want to for my schedule) and almost no weekends. Plus interesting and important work a lot of the time and some great colleagues.
Thank you!
Sh*t! Any in-house position hiring zero experience graduates?