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[query] Is it a good idea to say a firm No due to medical reasons to a new night shift project I'm hired in?Accenture
I recently got a night shift project (2 days ago) that requires me to work from 10:30pm till 7:30am
I'm not comfortable with these timings and I'm thinking to ask my manager to put me on Bench (Due to medical reasons that involve mental health)
Is it a nice idea to say a firm No to a new project I'm hardlocked into, due to night shifts?
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Tell the consultant that you've sent everything to the manager already and that unfortunately you will not be available next week. But this is a good reminder to always copy other people on a note like that. Like the partner of the job.
I flew to Korea for a 2 hour meeting with my former client at EY the month at the request of an EY after I left the firm, not only did A.T. Kearney agree with it, they paid for it. Because client, then firm, then you is the way this profession works. I was 26 when that happened, the client and the partners (who are still alive) from EY are still my friends (one was at both of my weddings). This is a trivial investment in your long term relationships.
when they reach out, discuss your hourly rate before offering your services
Legally, you should not be doing this...
Lol don't do it
I wonder how many Partners will say on their deathbed "I'm glad I put the client and the firm first"
Shared all my results with her, and attached every important email communication. After I dropped off my laptop and returned my badge this morning, the engagement manager asked one of the consultants to reach out to me and have me walk him through everything next week. WTH?
Wow typical partner bs from P1. No the client does not come first- the individual or employee comes first. It is shoddy planning by the M if a employee who has left the firm should be doing any shit for him. What a shame that partners seem to think we owe them anything
I would agree with P1's sentiment here, but the situation sounds a bit more like the Manager just dropped the ball, not that there is some client emergency. In that case, I think offering to help is reasonable if you can, but I don't think you should cancel a vacation or impose on your next employer by asking to delay your start. And you absolutely should be paid for any work you're doing unless we're talking a <1 hour phone call or something.
Cannot believe how brainwashed some of you are. This is ridiculous. Repeat after me and say this to at least one person ever week - YOU and YOUR family come first, NOT the client.
P3, it's responses like that that make it clear to me that I'm leaving consulting before I get anywhere close to that mentality. Kind of absurd to ask a former employee to keep working (without comp), despite having the opportunity to make requests while they were still there. Hard no. "Oops I'm traveling in the Amazon and won't be able to connect"
So if we step back and put the cup of kool aid down, OP clearly did what should have been done by sending a nicely put together hand-off package to the M on the project...the M on the project shit the bed by not prioritizing the email and ensuring proper hand off was COMPLETE before the OPs last day wit the firm. Lack of planning on the Ms part doesn't constitute an emergency for the OP. Incompetence should not just be pushed under the rug because "the client comes first". That's total bull shit.
SC2 actually no, it's by putting the client and the firm first that you earn trust. Without that, your chances of making it to partner, or reaching a senior management position at any company without a dysfunctional culture, are extremely slim. You don't owe that to the partners, but depending on what you want for your career, you might owe it to yourself.
No the client does not come first, its not the end of the world if things get delayed by a few days because OP is not available for the hand off. How brain washed you folks are by just repeating like a robot "the client comes first the client comes first"
For what it's worth also, my comment was not directed at OP or the specifics of OPs situation, but at SC2's broader claim that the individual or employee should always come first. My point is that if you can't imagine a situation where you would sacrifice in even a small way, to ensure the success of a larger endeavor, then a professional job is the wrong career track for you. You don't have to always put the client/firm first. But sometimes if the sacrifice is small, and the benefit to someone else is great, what looks in the short term like altruism is actually in your long run best interest.
I still don't know enough about OPs situation to judge if that's the case here or not. It sounds like OP did everything the Manager had any right to expect, and the Manager didn't follow through. If the risk to the client is low and this will just mean the Manager has to work a few extra late nights, let him/her learn from tough experience to stay on top of things. But in more extreme situations, P1's example could be very relevant.
Help them out...karma will help you in the future
Cute of SM1 to assume one can only get good sleep on a bed of cash by bending over consistently. Sounds like you're in the wrong line of work. Me, on the other hand - I'm happy with working within respected boundaries, and still sleeping on a bed of cash.
D4, I was a 25 or so year old EM when I made that decision to fly to Korea for a two hour meeting. To quote one of the late partners I first worked for at EY at 24, act like a partner in your commitment to the client and you will be one. This career is not for everyone.
Many of my closest friends left the industry, a couple are professors, some of started and sold massive companies, one runs a non profit in West Africa and wrote a book about it, a couple hold office, and some are just better parents than I am.
(altruism is a great concept on a personal level, not really for corporate entities that will take everything they can from you, especially if it's free....)
P1: A.T. Kearney was your current company then? What was so important that they couldn't do it as part of video conferencing or a phone meeting? Btw I won't mind international trip when everything is paid for and no deliverable.