True or false : Big 4 are way ahead in consulting than MBB these days ? Shared by a guy at D - stating companies should evolve and grow with time.

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Yes, McDonald's is bigger and has more revenue than any Michelin star restaurant.

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Senior BigLaw Partners haul and do it longer than we do. That said, they work a lot harder.
Wouldn’t do that job.

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Of course it's from a guy at Deloitte 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦

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Comments like these always remind me of this scene from Mad Men

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Lol I know. I just love this meme ahah

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Apple and oranges:/ Big 4 for the most part does not go head to head with MBB to win work

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lol S& is the strategy arm of PWC (like EYP to EY) and SM stands for senior manager

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Way ahead in hiring people who barely have more than a pulse maybe

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They’re bigger, certainly.

ACN is bigger than all of the MBB and all of the Big 4 consulting businesses — does that mean they’re “way ahead”? Of course not. They are different businesses that do different things.

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I’ve had this conversation with many MBB partners. Many of them would love to move further across the value chain. But it’s not so easy for them to do this for a few reasons: 1. They are small - only 30k people compared to 300k - 400k in the Big 4. So they simply don’t have the firepower to cope with really large scale delivery; 2. They don’t have deep technical expertise in a number of functional areas and therefore aren’t credible going beyond the high level strategy. It will take a lot of time and investment to build this capability; 3. The fee charging mechanism would need to be a lot more transparent to clients and significantly overhauled in order for it to work on large scale delivery / transformation programmes. This would also affect overall firm economics and remuneration models

I think you can figure this one out on your own…look at how many people go from B4 to MBB vs the opposite

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Most people I know who moved from MBB to b4 did it because they were on the out side of up or out timeframes but didn’t want to leave consulting. Or they happened to have a niche area and the b4 lured them to build the area for them. Presumably with an attractive offer.

I’ve never heard anyone say they were going there for WLB. People who want that go to industry.

Agree b4 is the place to be if you want accounting, audit, tax, PMO focused roles. Disagree on implementation, technology and reg strategy.

Apparently someone had a Deloitte U steak dinner last night.

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I don't care whoever pays the most

MBB was so yesterday. EYPWCKPMG_D. gang rise up 🙌🏼

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Depends what practice. I was in the ops practice at McKinsey and I remember Deloitte being in the running a few times.

The simplest way to assess is rate cards. Deloitte isn’t even close. If they are far ahead, then they are wasting hundreds of millions per year by wayyyyyy undercharging.

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They do what they do arguably better than we do it. We do more than they do and do those things better. Apples and oranges

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