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Two MBB firms reached out to me this week about manager-level roles in generalist consulting, and a few posts mention a need for M (PL/EM/SM) roles too. Is there a sudden need for M level staff that can't be met with internal promotes? Why? Sure, fast growth, but are all the high performing future promotes leaving? Managers leaving? What else may be happening?

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A bunch of our EMs and senior BAs/ASCs left during the pandemic due to the rough lifestyle (remote has been especially hard) and attractive exits. Combine that with the pandemic hires performing below tenure compared to non-pandemic times, thus not ready to be promoted, and we have a large gap at the manager level

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Same situation here.
-Higher growth + higher attrition (especially at that level) = need to hire externally there which typically is avoided/done in limited scale as it’s a tough transition/adjustment. But here we are.

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We have a crazy need for PLs right now. Literally sold out and having to turn down work because we can’t staff more teams. If you are even remotely competent BCG will offer you a job right now

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What is the comp offered for PL? What would be the range for sign on?
I have my final round of interview this week.

What firm are u at ? OW?

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