Ugh. Today I had a tough day at the office (it’s closed but you can go if you want to, very few people are there). A partner destroyed me for being “greedy” - I asked about our practice group’s finances/case intake in the past few months). As I was leaving the office, I saw him leave the garage in a brand new Porsche 911 (I know it’s brand new because he did not have this car before).

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I know it’s none of my business what he does with his own money, but are 4th-5th year associates allowed to ask about the state of the group/firm? If things seem to be going so well, shouldn’t we know? I was kinda sad that the expectation for me is just to do as I’m told on the cases that are handed to me and that’s it.

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I think you're perfectly entitled to ask. He sounds insecure and that, as always, is a reflection of his own shortcomings/internal conflict. Don't let his outburst affect you. Associates should have an interest in the health of the business. It'd be concerning if they didn't, in my view.

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That’s ridiculous. The state of the firm’s finances are absolutely your business. How does a firm expect you to be invested long term if you don’t understand the dynamics? If you don’t know how the year is going, how can you be expected to understand the reasons behind firm expectations, salary increases, and hiring decisions. I’m sorry this happened to you.

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I need to know more. He said you were “greedy” for merely asking about the state of the firm?

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I said I’ve been feeling a bit lost during WFH because I’m the only midlevel left in our practice group (we’re junior and senior heavy, we had 2 other mid-levels but they left a few mos ago) so I couldn’t gauge how things were generally going beyond the work I had for myself. We have monthly town halls with the CEO/managing partner so the state of the firm (everything’s “just fine”). Then I said I was thinking about the mid to long term and it would be good to know how we’re going beyond my own stuff. You know, as in more information than “everything’s OK”. Before WFH it was easier to know if we’re going up or down because you quite literally see people running up and down the aisles or staying until late. I’m not sure if he understood that I was asking for an (unimaginable) raise out of lockstep or if I wanted to see how much $ he made this quarter. But I was a bit disappointed that it came down to this.

My experience recently has been that partners get really defensive when associates bring issues to their attention, whether it’s finances or some other issue. In my case, i tried to discuss the work distribution in our group and was gaslighted that no such issues exist 🙄 I think it has to do with the mass exodus our firm has been seeing...

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Yep, exactly. The conversation started off as how was I doing because multiple people in our group had left recently. I answered honestly and was immediately told the problem that I was already experiencing wasn’t actually happening to me 🤷🏽‍♀️

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I agree with Attorney 1. You need to know the status of the firm. As a 4th-5th year he should be more open and honest. He should want you to feel included in the important side of business. Moreover, at this point you are extremely valuable and most desirable by other firms. His reaction seems like an insecure one. Maybe (and playing devils ad here) he is concerned about you leaving. Or, maybe there is an issue and he worries you sniffed it out. Lots of unknowns here. Sorry you are dealing with this.

This was a really it depends kinda answer sorry. Lol :)

Ha! Sound like the Porsche Partner was projecting some of his guilt on you.

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