Was fired Monday from Big Law, mainly because i dared try to develop the firm’s business as an associate.
Sent applications Tuesday.
Have a few projects growing concrete by the minute with people who actually welcome biz dev.

To all those who are worried or already had something bad happen in their careers because of the virus: be strong people, everything happens for a reason and there are great occasions to be seized in all situations. ✊

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Uh I feel like we’re missing something. What year are you? Firms don’t just fire bc of business development unless they think something else going on (like stealing clients or something).

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Yeah, wondering whether they had an active non compete clause in their contract.

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I did no realize biz development is a problem for a big law associate.

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I don’t know the facts here, but in the past - particularly at my last firm - they really didn’t want associates doing any actual marketing. They’d look at it (more or less) as: you’re a grinder here to Bill on the files of a very select few rainmakers (I continue to be shocked at how few attorneys I know have actual sizable books of business). They really don’t want the status quo impacted in any way and are too busy doing their own things and trying to keep the clients they have and offering best value, so there is no time to actually develop most associates into future rain makers nor do they give associates any time to build that reputation.

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I'm confused by the tone of this post. How advanced an associate are you? Were you just hired in the past few years? When you were hired was the expectation that you be a grinder and get work done, or that you develop business?

We have had multiple associates who brought in clients, but simply couldn't get the work done. The clients were typically small, and the effort required to supervise the associate work was substantially more than what we earn from those clients. Even in small firms like ours, the only way to make money on small clients is for one attorney to manage the cases through billing with little oversight.

For bigger firms, where there is more overhead, high maintenance small clients are rarely worthwhile, so if you were brought in to grind, the firm wouldn't want you marketing before you develop your skills. Some bigger clients also demand approval of all new clients (at least in their area).

When I was starting out, I got a few clients and then went to firms and told them I could generate business. Most firms didn't care, and a few showed interest. It sounds like wherever you started was just the wrong fit, which is fine, but your "dared try to develop" language struck me as sanctimonious.

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I’m in biglaw in a smaller market and they refuse to take on most clients I bring in because of “potential future conflicts” or issues out of NYC. Very frustrating.

OP, keep the hustle going, but when interviewing for new positions, be sure to leave any bitterness or resentment at the door. New firms will want a solid narrative about why you left that makes you and the old firm both look blameless.

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Leaving biglaw was the best thing that ever happened to me. I'm in house now and only slightly below cash comp for my year plus I have options. And the increase in control over my schedule has been fantastic. Never look back.

Cosign the advice that you should be neutral to upbeat in interviews though. All the best to you as you move on to new things!

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Yep, paralegal before law school at 3 biglaw firms (NY, London, SV) over eight years with a finance career before that in investment banking, and an MBA in-between.

First biglaw firm was a satellite office of a biglaw firm, second firm's office was a huge HQ. Then seconded to SF tech company and I stayed!

You can get a lot of work experience in before law school when you start at age 34!

What's wrong with a BigLaw associate trying to develop business? We need more context, OP!

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Def can be seen as "too big for britches" at some biglaw firms.

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Big law doesn’t value bus dev from associates. They want you to grind. I ran into the same problem. “Left” and started my own firm and never looked back.

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