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I do agree to an extent. However, where I live, there are at least a dozen reasonably priced colleges and universities within a 2 to 3 hour drive, yet there are still those who choose the two schools whose yearly tuition could literally buy you a new BMW. I'm never going to complain about higher pay for teachers, but it might be a good idea to let high school seniors know that there is exactly zero difference between an education degree from the big expensive university and the education degree from the Division II or III school that costs 1/4 the price.
If you're in a district/state where salaries are negotiated by the union for the whole district, there is absolutely zero difference in pay based on what university/college you went to. I'm sure that's not the case in other career fields, but it is in education.
Student Loan Forgiveness is the way to go!
WTF?
yeah, Biden was suppose to fix that for teachers.
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Tired of people complaining about student loans and low pay. People who want to go into teaching need to be smart with how they borrow money, and defer instant gratification. Yeah, I wish I made more money, but I also knew what I was getting into. Ignorance if one doesn't.
You love working for a non union school district? LOL After working 32 years for a union school district, my union negotiated and made it possible for me to collect 70,000 dollars a year for my pension and I never paid a dime into it. Been retired for 16 years. Jokes on you.
There is a reason it is called a LOAN. That implies that you will pay it off. I don't see people begging for forgiveness for their mortgage or their car payment. Just because you don't like or drive your car doesn't mean that you no longer have to pay for it.
No. I paid mine back as well, and yes, on my teaching salary. I also paid for my masters degree (and plus 30) out of my own pocket that was "lined" by teaching salary.
I started college at 42 and it took me 8 years to finish my Bachelors. I used my husband's GI Bill for the part and I had a Folds of Honor scholarship at the end to finish my last few classes. However, the other 2.5 years were paid by me working as a substitute. It took me longer because I did not want school debt. I know that it is not always that way but I chose to raise my 5 kids as a stay-at-home parent instead. There are so many ways to do this without getting into that much debt. We definitely do not get into teaching to make any sort of money.
Responsible lending and smart budgeting is the way to go. I went to CC first two years, lived at home, and worked my way through. Then transferred to state school, commuted and still worked. Yes, it was stressful but graduating debt-free was awesome. Both masters then mainly paid for by district. It can be done. But you can't have it all. If you rack up thousands in debt in a world where you have many options for college, whose responsibility is that? In your teaching career (like many others), you're either paying for the decisions you made in the past, or you're getting paid for the decisions made in the past. I had a $7,000 balance on my last student loan earlier this year for one of my masters. I thought about the gov't. possibly forgiving it, but then I said to heck with that, I'm not waiting around begging someone else to foot my bill. Where's the integrity in that? I paid that sucker off with my hard-earned cash, and it was one of the best feelings in the world.
Teacher programs should be state funded. imo
The real issue is the student teaching. Only those with means or the ability to take out big loans can essentially work an unpaid internship for several months at a time. (Driving to the school(s), purchasing professional attire, writing lesson plans, and taking classes adds up fast since you essentially have zero time for paid work.) If people want diversity in teaching to change, the whole system of teacher preparation would need to change.
Since I'm old, I have a different perspective on student loans. When we went to college, it was expected that you would work and live poor for the four years that it took you to graduate. I went back much later in life to get another degree and I found that none of my fellow students had jobs and all took out loans to cover living expenses and they expected all the comforts of home with mom and dad while attending college. So they took out way more debt than they should have. Also, the easier the loans became to get, the more colleges started jacking up tuition and nobody really noticed because everyone was spending someone else's money......until the graduated and had to pay it back. Students now simply do not think about the ramifications of incurring large amounts of debt. To address the teaching shortage, maybe instead of paying off people's debt, states could give teachers free college if they commit to giving a certain number of years to teaching in that state.
That's what the island of Guam did ( US territory) We had to work 5 years for pay off
HSSST: Accepting the status quo is one thing. I think we all understood what we were getting into as far as pay. Wishing we were respected and paid more and hoping it changes is another..
I honestly went to an inexpensive state school and then did two years of service with AmeriCorps and a year with Peace Corps and received educational awards that paid off the majority of my student loans. I think informing future professionals about all of the options with regards to tuition assistance and loan forgiveness is the way to go. There are so many options, but it seems that you need to dig to learn about any of them.
lol I did too. But back in my college days, my total tuition was 25k and 15k of that was grants. Of course my starting salary was 27k. 25 years later I make sure 59k. Doesn’t seem right.
I remember being told that because of the demand for Math teachers, your student loans would be paid if you taught for 10 years. Otherwise I would have went into the trades
Salary is bad in TN unless you work in the central office. When compared to other states we in the bottom 5 states
Yeah, I borrowed 60k, paid back 70k+ and still owe 20k. How's that for new math? Thanks teacher loan forgiveness and PSLF. Denied for both, multiple times, always for dumb reasons.
Can I ask what the reasons were? (MN middle school here)
If you work at certain schools you can get financial help. Check out CTA.org. Go union!
Problems of the student loan issue:
A) Students are given too much money every semester/academic year
B) Students are allowed to charge against their (loan) account(s)
C) Disaggregate that total student loan debt: Tuition, Books, Fees, Room & Board, Meal Plans, and the amount charged.
D) Run those numbers for the categories listed in C and look at the trend lines.
The individual made their investment in their education...so why should taxpayers be on the hook to pay for their educational choices?
I wonder about high paying professions such as Drs. and engineers. Do they have their loan forgiven too? In my opinion, students loan forgiveness should be a case by case basis and dealt with as such.
It would be an interesting study to see what the ratio of salary to loans would be. Wonder if teachers ratio is about the same as engineers and/or doctors….
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