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@OP the firms can only hire the students in the pipeline getting accounting degrees at target colleges. The answer is that blacks and other minorities are under represented in accounting programs. Why aren't blacks studying accounting? Answer that question and you'll likely answer the question of why there's low diversity in B4.
If blacks and hispanics make up 5% of accounting students and also make up 5% of new hires, that would be proportional representation. I think the issue is likely much larger and social economic. Many of the youth growing up in poorer areas and lower on the socio economic spectrum don't have the same guidance and support systems driving them towards accounting as a profession.
What I'm saying is don't call it diversity if you're only talking about blacks and Hispanic. Call it "Blacks and Hispanics". Diversity encompasses more than just blacks and hispanics. Also Asians are not a majority in the west coast. Maybe Bay Area, but even there they are not a majority to whites.
The difference with Asians is that they have a very high rate of going to college and a high rate of studying accounting. If blacks and hispanics went to college and studied accounting in the same numbers then you'd see similar results in the firms. It's not the Asians fault that they value education more than other minorities.
The NBA needs more diversity initiatives.
@BDO1 you can't possibly believe that the firms can hire people with no accounting background and "teach them accounting"
Surprised no one has talked about public schools. Minorities tend to live in urban areas for various reasons, public schools in urban areas are typically not as good as their more rural and private counter parts. As a result minorities are underrepresented in colleges and universities which leads to less people studying accounting that belong to a minority group.
My opinion is this boils down to the corporate world trying to fix societal issues and being stuck with a pool of recruits that isn't as diverse as they might ultimately want.
Every recruiting I've ever been involved in has been geared towards accounting students who possess the credentials to be able to sit for the CPA exam. Not holding the educational background to be able to sit for the CPA Exam disqualifies a candidate.
@PwC3 By that reasoning Blacks aren't minorities either since they make up all of Africa and a large part of central and South America...
@manager 1 i think PwC has tried through the "earn your future" program.
But again all of it goes back to community outreach for at risk and under privileged populations. Many blacks and hispanics do not get the same support at home and do not see the value placed on higher education from their personal networks. Community out reach programs are a good way to help with this as they can help expose those youth to the value of an education.
So poorly educated Asians should be excluded from the conversation because of a sweeping comment that most Asians are educated and are good at math/accounting? Defies logic in a diversity, inclusion, and empowering minorities discussion.
Depends on what office you are working in. Some offices are more diverse than others.
"Am I diverse now?" Seems pretty yes/no to me.
There can be other opportunities to network with the B4 at conferences but may require a lot more effort on the students part. IMO, I think I hear people say we need more diverse recruiting but we recruit at the same schools with the same demo.
PWC3 as a fellow Latino I agree 100% oftentimes same here I'll show up and look in the room and notice I'm only Latino there. Just comes down to supply is low
bdo1 grades still get you in the door (i.e. Interview). They can't tell some students gpa, community involvement, etc is important and ignore it for others. I always felt like a 3.7 vs. 3.9 might not matter but a 3.7 vs a 2.5 can't just come down to personality and fit. In my experience grades weren't emphasized because if you didn't have them they didn't talk to you 😂
@Manager 1 have you visited any West Coast offices? Asians are the majority in these regions. I don't think that that's the case for latinos if you go to Texas. Or for African Americans if you go East. The firms have good Asian representation. We can't say the same for African American representation or Hispanic representation. Also, to everyone here I apologize for my comment above.
Diversity in corporate America is neither good or bad. Forcing the necessity for diversity within firms doesn't bring the best talent. But certainly diversity cultivates different ideas and approaches to solving problems. As an African American, I've never felt uncomfortable being the only one like myself. It's actually an advantage in many cases. Firms should continue to hire the best talent available
I've worked in many companies throughout my career and the ones that have been the most successful, and most diverse, ironically don't pay any conscious attention to diversity. They simply treat others with respect and dignity and hiring decisions are made based upon how well a person fits into the office dynamic. It just so happens that diversity has grown organically within the office based on these principles. We have Americans, foreigners, blacks, asians, latinos, etc... It's the most diverse place I've ever worked.
Wouldn't focusing on creating a positive work atmosphere where employees are treated with respect and dignity help solve the problem? Are minorities not being retained because they don't feel comfortable since there are no other minorities, or is that secondary to them not being treated right as humans in the workplace? Hypothetically, let's say that you were treated great at work. Great office culture, great work life balance, great pay, always treated with respect, but the far majority of your coworkers happened to be white. Would you have an issue that there were no other latinos or would you not think twice due to the great work environment?
The real question is why there aren't more "whites" in the NBA.....