Weird but serious question. How do you deal with bathroom breaks and billable hours? I try hard to stay hydrated because it helps me focus and is obviously good for me, but then I feel like I’m having to pee every 30 minutes, which ends up being disruptive to my work. Any insight or tips on how this works would be great. 😅

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I’m invariably still stressing about whatever it is I’m working on, so I bill it all

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For disruptions under three mins I rarely stop my timer.

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Yeah agreed I still bill

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Are attorneys actually timing their work? Like….with a real timer? I’ve never once done this in 12 years of billable hours. I am shook.

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SA1: I think it is rather that the people who guestimate overbill.

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Bill while you pee.

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Thank you all! This is super helpful!

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