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What are the stats on up or out at MBB? Any rough percentages? Does it vary widely across MBB or fairly similar?

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I don’t have numbers but it’s probably going to vary a lot across firms and even geographically. At Bain my anecdotal perception vs the other 2 is we have fewer really intense cut points in the progression, but those cut points are harsher. It’s relatively easy to go from AC>SAC>C>CTL (now Manager), perhaps easier than other MBB but I don’t really know. SAC to C is the toughest and that has pretty high yield for those who want the promotion. Probably 80% of those who want to stay get direct promoted it B school sponsorship. CTL>Manager (now M to Sr. manager) is very tough. Definitely tougher/lower pass through than other MBB going from C>PL or A>EM. I’d guess roughly half of those who stay until the promotion point actually get it. But then you’re clear until partner, which is obviously also a tough cut point. Our progression of Sr. Manager to AP is more a “survive and you get it” vs it being a true culling of the herd like it is at BCG/McK.

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At BCG, the biggest cut points are C->PL and Partner ->MDP. For the other ones, it’s mostly if you stay long enough you get it (from what I heard).

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Seeing quite a few As and SEAs pushed out though

I thought C->PL was about 80% with the remaining leaving either voluntarily or involuntarily.

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So even BCG is impacted during these Covid times. Surprising to me considering my BCG friends have mentioned how much busier they are these days.

Harsh... but honestly keeps people on their toes.... at D people stay for ever and that’s just crazy

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I can firmly say that 100% of employees are either up or out at some point.

You’re so clever! Lol. But touché. Now don’t be deliberately dense, you know what I was asking, hah

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It varies based on if you’re a BA or ASC. BAs are just so cheap relative to their output that it’s more effort to recruit/retrain a new person and CTL them. So BAs can stay 3-4 years without being asked to EM. Asc are a different story - they’re more expensive and by the time you’re 2-3 years in you are expected to start managing teams

So BAs dont really feel the up or out pressure as much as asc. No BAs feel it really if you’re an ok or better performer

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