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What are your thought on states like Georgia and Texas “opening up” their economies?

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Just because businesses can open, doesn’t mean they will. Just because a business does open, does it mean customers will go. The governor is giving small businesses a chance to survive.

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I don’t think that is the point. I think the point is that I’m hearing from too many, including good friends of mine who are small business owners, that as soon as we begin to reopen that they will immediately start doing better. I think the problem with this is that 1) it’s not going to start getting better for as many as what I’m hearing, 2) the “getting better” will probably not make much of a difference for many right away (see argument about how operating at 25% can lead to losing more money), and 3) we need better answers (clearly waiting for a vaccine is not the answer, and no I don’t think it will take longer than 18 months to get one given resources devoted to this) to reopening and I think too much focus is on what these partial openings will do rather than focus on better interim solutions. I’m also worried that because we aren’t focused on interim solutions and since we are trying to reopen quickly that we may get hit hard by a second wave. I really don’t want to go back to shelter in place. It’s interesting listening to many of my friends who are small business owners. When I ask whether they think they will have customers they naively say “well I’ll be open why wouldn’t it be like normal?” Another friend is basically a DJ. He thinks he will be back to doing major events in a month. Maybe I’m naive, but I don’t see that happening soon.

I think this will backfire, and the states taking a slower approach will fare better. Most people will stay 6 feet apart and behave correctly, but there are plenty of idiots who will screw it up.

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Given density advantages and knowledge of the issue yes - but ability to stop additional spreads? Not really. Again, just look at S. Korea. They identified and contained the first 30 patients, but were 1 patient away from containing the entire outbreak. However, patient 31 didn't listen to quarantine orders, went to church, and as a result their true outbreak occurred.

I think both will do better than NYC 🤷‍♂️

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I’m in TX. Still not going to go anywhere. Of course I’m pretty privileged to have a job where I can work from home. I’m worried about people working in food service and retail who don’t have that choice and have to come in to keep getting a paycheck, since they will lose their unemployment otherwise. Of course the flip side is that it’s much better for them to get a paycheck than not. It’s hard to balance, especially for those who are most at risk, or live with people who are.

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I think people generally overreact to the states opening up and think that every single member of the population will live just as things were before, many people will still wear masks, social distance and be smarter than they were months ago, also those states are a lot hotter and the virus had less potential to spread down there than a place like NY

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I think it’s fine (I’m a liberal in CA btw). The states are doing fine, they have reasonable precautions in place such as masks, distancing, and other restrictions. They have enough hospital space and equipment and are nowhere near the capacity of other states or countries. Some of y’all looking at the states pretending they’re gonna be the next NYC, Italy or France but there is such an enormous world of difference between these. Far less population density, plenty of use of personal cars as opposed to public transportation. Streets are relatively open and spacious and stores are preparing to provide space for everyone. I think communities need to react as an issue develops, not out of misplaced fear of what could be. If the situation develops and rate goes up, I imagine they will shut down again. If it doesn’t, I think this decision is the least of the evils. Government isn’t *forcing* people back to work; they’re allowing people the *option* to work again if they choose to, which is an important distinction as well.

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There are restrictions in place to protect people- mask requirements, distance requirements, etc. The hospitals have capacity and resources. Delivery and contactless pickup are still options for our more at-risk populations. Neither state is exactly known for their public transportation and/or high population density, and so I can't see them getting hit as bad as NYC. There's a huge, huge difference between slowly allowing people to decide what level of risk they are personally willing to take on as we get into our "new normal" and, say, throwing a giant mandatory parade/party in the streets/nursing homes. People are going to be more cautious, our at-risk populations can still avoid being in public, and we can't just stay in quarantine until there is a vaccine. We need to stop freaking out about whether or not someone wants to take the risk to get their hair cut. We don't have to enter a grocery store or public place if we don't want to. We don't have to expose ourselves. It will be okay.

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I’m in Dallas. Most people I know, including myself, don’t plan on making any changes to our current situations any time soon. Hopefully that will make it safer for those people that don’t have many other options but to go back to work.

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I think they are jumping the gun and will inevitably see a spike in cases if people try and go back to their normal routines...

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Spike in Texas? Dallas hasn’t even approached peak yet. One of the main hospitals, Parkland, just announced they are at record number of patients (and rising) for both on ventilators and admitted to hospital.

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