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I am currently on notice period and my LWD is Sep 2, 2022. Today, I got an offer from state street mentioning my joining date as Sep 12, 2022 even though I already told HR that I would like to join from Sep 5 itself. How can I convince HR to prepone my joining date to Sep 5, 2022. I don't want to lose my one week salary guys. Pls suggest. State Street
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I'm completely fine with it
How about everything in moderation? Do your own thing sometimes, hang with the team sometimes. There are times when I want to hide in my hotel room and times when I want to let loose with teammates.
First week though, you should try to socialize as much as possible.
My problem is most team activities involve alcohol and unhealthy food, both of which I’m trying to cut back on. If it was more common for team members to do exercise-based activities or go to the movies together I’d be all for those
For the love of god, leave them alone.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with this, however, I know there is a great deal of bias against such team members. I am introverted, but I make a point of always attending team dinners and sometimes arranging them myself because I don’t want to be seen as an isolationist.
One of the members on my team skipped a team dinner during the first week she joined the project and while no one said anything that was outright negative, I could tell they disapproved.
This disapproval is one of the things that makes this profession so toxic and causes firms to lose great people.
yea team dinners once a week sounds awful
I absolutely hate the forced comradery and need time away from my team to decompress. Don’t put this burden on my team either. If they want to hang out, happy to pay for team dinner, but if they want to enjoy the city themselves, I let them. I have not seen teams operating better if they hang out every single night.
“Every night” is speaking in absolutes and not at all a realistic expectation. It’s important. Imagine a partner who won’t attend team/client dinners because they want to “do their own thing”. Unacceptable
Work life balance means you shouldn’t be forced to eat dinner with your colleagues.
I do think, however, that team members should make an effort to attend special dinners (I.e. partner is taking the team out etc.). That’s just career management 101. If your boss offers to take you out and you say no, it’s going to make you look like a dink anywhere.
My 2c:
- should go for first week to get to know team and last week to celebrate success
- should go if sr partner or some non every-day team member is in town
- otherwise shouldn’t be an expectation to attend. Point is to help people relax - don’t go if it doesn’t achieve that goal
^^ seconded
Who am I to judge what someone decides to do outside of work hours?
People are free to do as they like, but I prefer teammates who enjoy seeing each other outside the office 🤷♂️
After spending 10+ hours with my coworkers, practically living with them M-Th, dinner is my sacred alone time. People can judge me but I have stellar performance reviews and could not care less if I’m the introverted teammate
K2- exactly! I’ve been an amateur/competitive athlete for years and would enjoy team events that involved physical activity more than drinks and high calorie dinners, especially after we spend all day sitting. I crave physical activity/exercise at the end of a long day.
First team dinner or special roll off dinners should be attended to. At least if you want to get that exposure
I wouldn’t disapprove or judge, but people that spend time together outside of work are more likely to build stronger professional networks. I would say it hurts them more than it affects me
BA1 maybe people don't want to spend more time around coworkers after facing them 8+ hours a day at work.
Haha fair point, thankfully I like everyone I work with at Booz
Rather go rock climbing ?
I’ve skipped most every team dinner I’ve been invited to, except for casual dinners with coworkers who are friends. And I’ll tell anyone to piss off if they give me sh*t because I’m good at my job
I could careless and also could careless if others judge me. And my network is extremely strong. The tribal bs and those that need to drink all the time often are at the bottom of the performance bar anyways. Do you boo boo.
I see both sides: you shouldn’t have to spend your time after work with “work”. Especially those days when you’ve already spent the entire day and then some with everyone (out of town clients, trainings, busier times of the year), some time to yourself is needed. It’s almost like you’re never turning it off and still haven’t left work. However, at the same time never attending team events can be perceived negatively. Happy hours at trainings allow you to network. Dinners with your team help you to bond. So I would say, you don’t have to attend them all, but also don’t miss them all.
I have greater respect for those people.
I don’t hold it against anyone, but they are missing networking / bonding opportunities, and like it or not that is one of the critical success factors in this industry. Deloitte is more explicit about it than other firms, but it’s true across the industry that the strength of your internal network makes or breaks your career.
I’m an introvert myself, I understand, and I have skipped my share of team dinners over the years. I’ve also been to more than I could ever count though, and many of my closest relationships with colleagues were formed through having those shared experiences outside the client site. When I do skip them, I realize I am missing a networking opportunity that might benefit my career.