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What do you do DIFFERENT than your peers that is helping you in your career (faster promos, better wlb, more pay, etc)?

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Changing company is the greatest booster 😁 In the same company i guess that my natural propensity to avoid conflicts/diplomacy and need to be liked did the rest (I don't suggest the latter tho, its a BIG stressor and it backfires often). Oh and of course passion in what I do(No, not everyone is passionate). It's not really something you can learn, but gives you lot of advantage when it comes to results/competencies and, in turn, in promotion. That is about promotions and roles, about paychecks I can see who gets the most is just who complains the most and asks for it clearly, so a good commercial attitude (which i lack completely) is essential.

Some of the smartest people I have met skipped college

I've been in consulting for 3 years and started with a class of 10 new hires and am now 1-2 titles more senior than all of that hiring class. I have gone from 45K - 150K . I take 3 full weeks of PTO annually and get a lot of opportunities from our C suite that my peers do not. 1. Work really hard but make it know what you are working on and how much effort/time it is taking. Most managers do not want you working 60+ hours and if you are transparent that you have too much they will adjust. Try to unload any low visibility or busy work after your first year. If you are working hard on high visibility projects execs are going to see your hard work. 2. Seek out special projects or opportunities to interact with management. Think volunteering for interview panels, shadowing sales engagements, mentoring new hires, volunteering for events, etc. 3. Be very open about your career goals. I want to move to management and have been very clear about that. Every year I establish my goal for the next (usually a title & salary adjustment) and ask my manager what I need to do to get there. All in all, work hard but strategically. If management doesn't know you or like you things will come slowly so it's best to learn to play the game. I have asked for 5 (sounds so bad saying it lol) raises and have gotten every one I've asked for including during salary reductions/freezes for Covid last year. I can give some advice on how to have those conversations as well if needed.

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yes please..let's talk raises but we most certainly don't get them at the WITCH. where do you work

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Better WLB- I pretend to always be really busy even when I’m not. People are more appreciative when I end up doing work.

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Wow, crazy! Good on you for doing something about it.

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Care less. This has resulted in way better WLB and mental health. Maybe I don’t climb the ladder quite as fast, but I’m still progressing and learning, just not billing myself along the way.

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Job hopping. Doubled my salary and got a promo with one hop within B4

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How often do u do that,

Learned to say no early on, around my 2nd/3rd year. My promos and comp increases were a bit slower and lower than a good chunk of my compatriots, but my WLB was significantly better and I look 10 years younger now than most in my cohort, along with us being around the same pay now.

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Taking 16 years to make partner instead of 14 isn't exactly rocket science

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What I did: telling my managers and directors from the get go that i was as wide a range of experiences as possible from tech to strategy to sales where I can. Also honestly working late and weekends in year 1. What someone else did: made friends with our bosses and got some good insight into career growth, client relationships, and essentially got the passenger seat to how engagements are run and what the important aspects are. I think a mix of both is healthy because I was miserable while the other person went to impromptu happy hours a lot by invitation

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My story matches with the “someone else”. Not sure how, but everyone liked me and I ended up getting promotions and raises+ happy hours too. Be a outspoken generalist.

Interview. Get another job offer and negotiate. If you’re solid at what you do and want to stay, your boss will fight to keep you.

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I've done it twice (successfully) at the same company in 3 years.

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I am basically Tyrion Lannister. -"I drink and know things"

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Good. Two of the sharpest people that I know skipped college. Both are leaders and all around awesome people

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I got tired of all the brown nosing, snake-oil salespeople, broken commitments and petty politics. After years of enduring and miserably tolerating it, I opened up my own small company and couldn’t be happier. Thanks to all the horrible people and experiences, they taught me what not to do! And in the process met and worked with some great people, who typically don’t make the news or get the coveted promotions.

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Did you do anything different while you were at the big consulting firm that prepared you to go out on your own.

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Network and exude good vibes

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Yeah, being likable by everyone is so important. The partners hear positive things about you from so many different sources and it just helps to persuade their decisions around comp, bonuses and promotions.

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Leaving jobs that don’t nurture me

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I network and put in the hours not for ppl I like, but the ppl That’ll benefit my career within leadership. Putting my hours with the right folks and expanding my network in that regard

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Defend those below me from being taken advantage of by those above them. This will eventually be an advantage when I need to recruit people to join me at another firm.

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I’m good at explaining technical information succinctly to a non-technical audience with solid analogies and I don’t use to many substitute words or whatever you call them: “like, um,” etc

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so you’re a good story teller. cool

ABCL: Always Be Creating Leverage. Hire people who are smarter than you to be on your team, and relentlessly leverage them. Always follow the rule of delegating tasks to the lowest possible level at which they can be competently completed.

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I’m honest and shoot straight. Everyone knows exactly where you stand with me. The most important quality, always know what your talking about otherwise say nothing. If you are going to contribute something substantial to a conversation, stay quiet.

Not pretend like many others suggest and actually out work the rest, which doesn't always mean the longest hours. I've often taken on the thankless tasks others wouldn't and it paid off. Many of this pretenders that were my peers over the years are now struggling because that doesn't work forever

I’m a gluten for punishment and willing to negotiate. I have made deals with leadership (at old firm) that I will lead XYZ work stream that we all knew was going to be a 100 hour week burner ONLY if I was guaranteed certain promotions.

Work smart. Identify what tasks have visibility to managers and focus on being proactive with those tasks. Even if they are less time consuming or easier, at this point all of my tasks are fairly easy but management sees it and trusts me, therefore I get treated better.

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