What do you think about the Supreme Court overturning Roe vs Wade?

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I’m a woman and I burst into tears. That sums up how I feel.

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I imagine some weak minded men must have used that laughing emoji. I've noticed it's always a particular type of man who doesn't stand up for women's rights. And they're usually extremely unlucky with women.

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The majority opinion turns the right to privacy on its head. That is what Roe was based on. This ruling today brings the very real possibility that marriage equality and contraception access will be next.Couple this with the striking of the limitations for concealed carry in NY by the court yesterday, and I am legitimately scared of what happens next.

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A3, even if you’re right, the court is currently split 6-3, so there’s no real swing unless we’re talking about both Roberts and Gorsuch (adding Roberts because he’s the one who has surprised me a few times).

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Remember you are asking the New York City bowl. It’s an echochamber that is one of the top 3 bluest cities in America

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I'm just honestly interested what our crowd thinks about it

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Believe in abortion rights, don’t believe it’s the supreme courts job to decide one way or the other. This needs to be up to the legislatures to codify.

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PS1. If you disagree with this decision because Roe was "law" then you should disagree with Brown since Plessy was "law" then. So it sounds like you are the one in favor of segregation.

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7/8/2022 signed but still vague

Law professor discusses the impact of the signed order, audo transcript available: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/1110577418/the-impact-that-president-bidens-executive-order-on-abortion-access-will-have

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Roe is not good law and it deserved to be overturned. Legislatures across the country will actually have to do their job, represent the interests of each respective state (whether pro life or pro choice).

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It becomes a political issue now in each state. Democrats have been using the ban for years for fundraising instead of actually doing their jobs. Many moderate Republicans are pro choice would this mean they will vote D now? I don’t think they want this to be an election issue for the midterms but here we are.

The government of this country needs to be replaced.

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CD1, SCOTUS is part of the government, but yes, it's Congress and The President who need to pass laws/Amendments to undo this

Let your state decide. I’m okay with it

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PS2: It may sound great that NY is providing assistance for those coming from outta state, but in reality, healthcare providers are just going to be burnt out again just like the beginning of covid. Hospitals, clinics will be short staffed, appointments will be delayed. It's also easier said than done. All of this falls on the hands of our healthcare staff yet our healthcare system already sucks ass and lacks the support & resources that's needed from the govt

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The court is way out of line. Trying to impose a far right ideology (which a large majority of Americans oppose) on the country. This is only possible because of mechanisms in our government that favor the rural minority (electoral college, senate, gerrymandering).

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I do view a fetus as a baby ie a human life. After seeing still life fetuses at different stages and how developed they were my opinion on abortion changed. I do see it as terminating a life and something that should be a last resort. That said, banning abortions doesn't stop them, can stifle teens who have unwanted pregnancies, and overall create more turmoil in our society. I'm for allowing abortions (with limitations) but overall our country needs better sex ed, affordable and easy access to contraceptions, better healthcare, and support for families (raising minimum wage for example could help a lot of families). When I say limitations, I say that because I know two people who each got 8 abortions + and refuse to use contraceptions. The Supreme Court ruling doesn't make sense to me because the government hasn't shown they actually care about stopping unwanted pregnancies or supporting people that chose to have a family. You can't even find formula for your kids at the moment plus it would cost you $80 to fill your car to get to the market and yet abortion is the main concern.

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CD2 listens to the echo chamber just like the pro lifers. You will always be wrong no matter all other factors related to the issue. As a result your opinion does not count. And if your a man your thoughts on abortion does not mean anything at all. There is no nuance, or honest debate.

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Whether I agree or not (I’m a registered Democrat), the original Roe v Wade was a flawed unlawful decision to legislate from the court. This overturn was a long time coming. Abortion rights is no where in the Constitution. The 10th Amendment clearly states, if not in Constitution, it’s a state issue for the voters in the states to decide. Essentially, the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives.

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and how long did it take for brown v board of ed to come down? how long was jim crow now? how much are minorities actually de facto equal to whites even now?

its cute you "learned" this as a child but apparently you only learnes rote facts and not contextual knowledge

It’s incredible that a ‘first world’ country cares so much about what a woman does with her body 🤢
My mom lives in a ‘third world country’ and said that the US is turning out to be extremely regressive and backwards

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PSA: Please consider donating to an abortion fund or independent abortion clinic located in a hostile state (e.g., Alabama, Arkansas, TX, FL, Georgia, WV). Note, Planned Parenthood is flush with funds given a recent $275M donation in March 2022 from MacKenzie Scott.

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Love this sentiment but I’m guessing $275M is a drop in PP’s budget. Totes ok to keep donations rolling to them!

For everyone who says this was the right thing to do, let’s hope you or your daughter isn’t a teenager and/or raped when they are forced to carry to term. Let’s hope you, your gf or your wife don’t have complications that result in the unnecessary or untimely death. For those who are male, let’s hope you are financially and emotionally equipped enough to raise the child on your own, since you are choosing to prioritize their life instead of the woman who gave birth. Let’s hope women aren’t vengeful for this in the future by withholding sex or making you sign contracts prior to sex that make you financially libel for child care, loss of life, and damages to be paid out to the family for entering into a potentially lethal situation like pregnancy. Let’s hope this doesn’t set a precedent that makes all people’s healthcare optional and at the discretion of the state to decide who lives and dies. Let’s hope your right to privacy remains in tact and they dont sell your medical records to the highest bidder and force you into a life threatening medical situation. Thoughts and prayers 🙏🏻

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Regardless of where you stand politically. A woman’s right to choose was affected. I’ll leave it there.

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Honestly, just extremely frustrated with the amount of people who actually believed it was a constitutional right. Should it be? I think so. But it always had the ability to be overturned. I'm annoyed at the amount of people who sit back, don't vote in local elections, and think their freedom can't be taken away just cause we live in the USA. People forget that it is also OUR job to protect our rights. We're lazy, willfully ignorant. The Republicans are also far more united and vote in greater numbers than the Democrats.

Back in 2018, it was reported that only 27% of eligible voters turn out in a municipal election. If dems get out more, especially in red states, we could be more effective. But instead all we do is march.

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I know, but I'm not sure how that's related to what I've said? They're in office in part bc we aren't doing our job at the polls. Registered voters who didn't vote in the 2016 elections were more Democratic-leaning than Republican. Trump would most likely have never been in office and our court would look different today.

I think Civil Rights are next.

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SC2 that comment makes me think about you, and on two different levels, before it makes me think about racism in this country

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Legally, the decision is correct. To me, that's the most important thing. Pretending the Constitution says what we want it to is dangerous as unelected judges get to essentially legislate from the bench.

Should abortion be legal? IMO yes. But that's not the question.

If you want it to be a constitutional right, there is a process for that. I have no problem if parties take actions to do just that.

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CD2, civil liberties are being left in the hands of Congress… to legislate… law.

This issue is only in States’ hands until Congress does something - they’ve had 50 years to do that, so maybe direct your focus that way?

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The problem is optics. People tend to view the U.S. as one nation / one country verses a collection of states.

While I agree it should be up to the states unless it’s otherwise codified in law, I do think not allowing abortions under extraordinary circumstances such as incest, rape or when a woman’s health is in danger is morally wrong. I think for those particular states, Planned Parenthood should sue the states and start the judiciary process that will eventually allow some exceptions under extraordinary circumstances.

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People view us as one nation, because we are. The constitution binds us together with a common rule of law. We are not the European Union, a collection of nation states with individual ruling governments, bound together by a set of non-binding agreements. The nations can leave at anytime a la Brexit. It is not a simple majority vote that would allow a state or collection of states to leave our union. We quite literally fought a war over that.

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You’re in NY. You’re fine. The world isn’t over

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-(c) probably some slavery-ambivalent New Yorker just before the Civil War

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