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We had unlimited when I was in-house and you had some folks on the legal team use 4-6 weeks (usually those who had been at the Company for 2 or more years) and other use 2. I don’t think anyone used less than that. I think it all depends on your workload. We were pretty well staffed so you could take off as you wanted and not have to worry that there wouldn’t be coverage.
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It means you will be watched and judged for taking time off.
I need a job where I can take 4 weeks off a year 🤤
My in house job! Next year I get 5 weeks. We’re also closed Christmas to New Years and there is literally no email!
It probably depends on the industry, by 3 weeks plus some random days off is totally reasonable. At my tech co. with open PTO, 2 weeks is the minumum you can take without managers telling you to schedule some more PTO.
Agreed. 3-4 weeks PTO is reasonable. Just don't abuse the benefits.
It means it’s harder to take time off and your vacation does not accrue nor is paid out when you leave. This varies place to place.
Set a good standard for yourself and everyone else and take at least 4!!
In firm life, unlimited pto means no PTO, but in-house it means set expectations early (let your team know at least 3-4 weeks before) and wrap up your work as much as possible prior to logging off. I also recommend holding on to that bounty - don't check in or check your emails during the requested time off - and you'll be setting yourself up for success. Finally, be considerate of your coworkers. Maybe trade off who takes Christmas/Thanksgiving, and be mindful of coverage.
It’s a marketing ploy. If your boss doesn’t take a lot of time, you’re screwed
We have unlimited vacation. It's basically no vacation, because the work never stops flowing. Any time you take off just increases the amount of work you have to get done during the time you're actually at work. Of course, this still happens at places with limited vacation, so my conclusion is that "unlimited vacation" is simply a buzzword to entice people that can't/don't sit down and carefully consider secondary/tertiary consequences.
It seems like it’s really department culture based. Our GC is good about taking vacation, so everyone else is, too. We have unlimited and people take their vacation here. I bet more time would’ve been taken if it wasn’t a pandemic year.
I lead a team of 3 attorneys and have a boss/GC who is passionate about time off, so I’m taking 5-6 weeks this year and told my attorneys they need to take a minimum of 4 weeks each year. I have a 24-7 job and so does my team so those vacays may be interrupted occasionally (though my GC doesn’t protect me from it, I do try very hard to protect my team from it).
PS this year, early on, the 4 of us on my team got together and planned out the big vacations and coverage which had helped us all stick to our vacation schedule and resulted in fewer PTO interruptions. Hope this helps!
“Is your work done” is the standard. Even then, it varies by company.
I am kinda in the same boat so interested to see what people think.
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I try to take whatever the market rate is. So like 4 years out of law school try to take 15 days a year. But if your boss doesn’t take it then it looks really bad on you for taking it.
My company is very passionate about work/life balance and taking time off. The head of legal said we should take a minimum of 4 weeks of PTO per year.
My first year at the company (joined in August) I likely won’t hit that, but with more international travel destinations opening up I fully expect to take 4-5 next year.
I think having that initial conversation with your manager is important “ok unlimited PTO, but what’s the expectation”