What is the financial benefit of working at a V10 with a terrible culture v. a lower ranked tech firm with better culture/lifestyle that pays Cravath scale? I’m strictly interested in the financial ramifications down the line if I leave.

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The notion of “firm culture” is absurd. Unless you know people in the specific practice group you’re going into or there are structural differences (e.g., minimum hours requirements), there’s really no way to discern whether one firm is going to offer you a better lifestyle than another. Even a single difficult partner or associate is enough to make your life miserable if you have to work with them regularly.

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Some of the “firm culture” stems from the clients. Would like to switch from v10-ish clients to start-ups and tech companies as it seems a lot more manageable based on conversations with colleagues.

This is very case specific. With only these facts, I say take the same pay job at the lower ranked place, why would you torture yourself with terrible culture? v10 in and of itself is meaningless. But it’s really about specialty and your year level and what you want to do long term. If you’re very junior, exit options are a long way off, absolutely don’t take terrible culture and torture yourself for 5+ years. If you want to make partner, look at PPP each place, but honestly, don’t take terrible culture, why would you want to be stuck there forever? If you’re senior, you specifically know the v10 is one of the best in your specialty and you will have great exit opportunities from there in 1-3 years that you won’t have coming out the lower ranked place, that’s the only reason I can think of (maybe others can think of more) to take v10 with bad culture and even then I’d be dubious. These jobs are a ton of hours. They become your whole life. Don’t make yourself miserable.

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What do you mean by "financial ramifications"? If they both pay Cravath, and you do not want to go for partner, then there are not financial ramifications. Unless of course you are talking about in-house opportunities.

Some of the “firm culture” stems from the clients. Would like to switch from v10-ish clients to start-ups and tech companies as it seems a lot more manageable based on conversations with colleagues.

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