What is the highest-stress firm of all the high-stress firms?

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What about Sadden… i mean, Skadden?

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From what I’ve read about typical billables, I’d expect Wachtell, Cravath, Kirkland, and Quinn to compete for those honors. But that’s just from a grind perspective. Stress also depends on who’s supervising you, who’s running your department, and how prone you are to anxiety.

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A brief high-jacking of your thread: I find that my stress levels correlate more with the balance of appreciation and criticism that I receive than the hours I’m working. I’ve been stress free on the eve of trial at 300+ hours per month. I’ve also been in the verge of giving notice while dealing with an absolute nutcase at 160+ hours per month.

Back to business and back to stressful firms: My understanding is that Cahill is very high stress, almost without exception. QE and Skadden stress levels are based entirely on the department.

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latham, STB, cadwalader, skadden, weil, cahill, milbank, ropes (as of recent years)…so so many. depends on the group and ppl tho

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Stress is more about performing at exhaustion. Cravath fits this bill.

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As a CSM associate, this is exactly it.

There’s nutcases at every firm. I’ve worked 15 hours in a month on a case and been totally miserable and had all encompassing cases with good people be far more tolerable.

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