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It all seemed to start with the concept of “asymptomatic illness”. You’re sick with no symptoms. So now everybody in America all of a sudden wants to test, over and over, despite not being sick, because they think they’re asymptomatically sick. Got a negative? Keep testing till you get a positive. Even if they’re vaccinated. Makes no sense. Doesn’t help that many places require tests whether people are sick or not, vaccinated or not.
Try to imagine a day where you plan to visit your sick elderly parent just before the holidays - feel completely fine, but cannot get tested for covid because you’re not showing symptoms, so you go anyway and spread the virus to your sick elderly parent. - I prefer a world where at home tests are offered and available to everyone equally without limitation.
The push is because people are not willing to change thier habits and states have shut down mass testing facilities. Antigen testing at home is also better because you can take it shortly before going to your grandmother's house or the friend with cancer down the street to be more assured you are not bringing death with you. And yes it is about money because tests are a lot more expensive in the USA than other G7 nations. There is no logic for it.
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You’re looking for some money to follow? Okay Lockheed just sold $9.5 billion in F35s to Finland. A bunch of senate republicans bought Lockheed stock just before the sale. And then the senate just approved $23 billion in spending for, which was more than Lockheed asked for But sure, you follow the money on masks designed to save *you*
Holy crap deloitte. I lean moderate right, but this info has genuinely made me so mad. The body bag investment… I can’t believe that. Thanks for sharing. Pelosi does suck though, terrible person.
Omicron caused a huge spike in people getting covid, which overwhelmed the existing testing system, which led to people asking why the hell we can’t just do this at home instead off all waiting in line for a 15 minute test
There are a lot of school districts experiencing teacher and substitute shortages due to this variant, and overwhelmingly parents want their children learning in person. At home testing is the best way to ensure you aren’t sending an infectious person to school. Keeping kids in school has a direct effect on the workforce performing well.
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First, they ARE a scarce resource. Second, it’s a waste of time, money and resources to test yourself all the time. Third, COVID isn’t going away so unless you plan to test yourself daily for the rest of your life, there’s really no point to this. It’s like some of you didn’t realize diseases existed until 2020
Is it possible to just get the plan old flu anymore? If you have flulike symptoms, is it likely to be covid? Remember the days when someone would come to your office and give flu shots? Those were the days.
Chief
SM1 that was my family over Christmas: COVID and Flu B. Would still gladly take that once every so often rather than wearing masks everywhere and all the social strife we’ve gone through these past two years.
Too many people with covid without symptoms are infecting others, causing numbers to spike and hospitalizations to overwhelm healthcare system. If people know they are positive they can stay home and not infect vulnerable populations.
I asked attendees of our nye party to get home tested prior to coming and no one from the party got it so I’m counting that as a use case for home testing
We just had a small family birthday party for my son and required rapids that morning. My sister in law tested positive but had no symptoms until the next day. Because she tested positive she didn’t come, isolated, and absolutely no one got Covid at that party. Big fan of testing prior to anything until kids under 5 are able to be vaccinated.
Is no one going to bring up “all the sudden”?
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Utter failure of the Biden administration.
This happens now on the US? We‘re home testing on a daily basis in my team for several month now. It’s one of the reasons we can justify to colocate - gives just a little bit more safety and not a big deal. Home testing in Europe is really standard for a while now…
My understanding is that Europe uses a different test type too. It’s not as accurate (both ways) but is very cheap and easy to make. It’s the same one used everywhere else in the world too. The US decided that we didn’t want to use that type so spent 9 months (at the beginning of the pandemic) to make our own test. In typical US fashion, it isn’t all that much more accurate, and is a lot more expensive, but it’s what we do. As a result, home testing in the US isn’t all that common. And now that it’s needed there are aren’t enough tests - and the tests that are available are being price gouged since the pricing agreement expired.
Because it’s easier than standing in line for two hours? My son used at home testing last summer for Boy Scout camp, hardly a new thing
The UK has had at home tests for free for about a year now. Glad the US is catching up. Access to testing helps stop the spread. Way easier to take an at home kit if everyone has one ready than go stand in line for an hour.
The testing has done a tremendous job for data collection and tracking. Test positive with a rapid test and they send you a PCR test for free to confirm, which they use to detect variants. No. 10 not using or following the data is a different story.
Europe has been doing this for a year.
Nothing is free. Insurance rates will go up exponentially to cover the cost. At the end we pay for everything… I’ve been an insurance broker for 8 years.
Good point
Most drugs that we have today to fight Covid are useful if you know early on that you have Covid. They don’t work if you are very sick. With omicron and the backlog for testing plus the 2-3 day wait to get results.. it’s far cheaper and easier to get at home tests
Simple, easy and effective COVID-fighting pills are arriving in California’s pharmacies, offering hope as cases soar and immunity falls. But the powerful new medicines – Pfizer’s Paxlovid and Merck’s molnupiravir – are in short supply, forcing physicians to make tough choices about who will most benefit from the treatment. There’s a second challenge: The pills must be taken within five days of the start of symptoms when the virus is still reproducing. That means it’s important to find a test, pronto. Sauce: https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/01/16/new-covid-drugs-are-here-you-just-need-to-find-them
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If someone has covid but they never get tested and have no symptoms do they still have covid?
Only if they are following their strict pee drinking and horse dewormer consumption routines, while also wearing their anti 5G helmets.
Rising Star
Another reason for the at home push is I’ve seen is that people are booking up real PCR appointments without really needing them as a precaution in case they need it, eg hoarding appt slots. Before they only opened up appts 3-4 days in advance, now they’re 7-10 days in advance and those are mostly booked up in a few hours. It’ll require more sophisticated booking systems to figure out if someone is hoarding slots or actually needing one for travel, school, follow-up tests, etc but I can book a test every day and it wouldn’t stop me at most booking sites.
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It’s because rapid tests are sold out at most places which means they have to go get a PCR.
If we all had a handful of at home tests, we could self-police. Going to see granny tomorrow? Better test myself even if I’m not symptomatic. It seems that this could be a game changer to our positivity rates.
Rising Star
If only we could make the tests more accurate. I feel like the inaccuracy causes more questions than it answers
Don't tell ME the plague is from flea bites, when I know is because my neighbor is a witch.
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Pretty quick?! We’ve been asking for this for a year at least. It’s absolutely nuts to stand in a line for 2 hours for a simple test.