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Do any law firms have mandatory retirement ages?
Is outlook down for everyone?
This might be way off base and IS a massive generalization, but I assume they won’t be full remote associates being offering partnership in any real numbers, mostly because the partnership are predominately older people who are used to being in the office and will inevitably have discomfort with elevating someone who they have rarely if ever met in person. At least personally, I’m expecting my firm to never offer partnership to a full time remote associate, and if I wanted to go full remote, I’d either accept that I won’t be a partner here or move to a firm near where I want to live that allows me to come into the office ~2-3 a month
Ahh, I love how negative those of us who are licensed to practice law tend to be.
First, yes, I think they will offer partnerships because firms already do this, and the world is changing. The legal field is going to fail as a whole because it refuses to change. Partly why I went to work for a software company.
Second, I love how quickly those are you have to fall in line to be a partner are still stuck on that mentality.
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CPM1 you seem to be missing the point about why what you said sounds completely ridiculous. People are downplaying your opinion because it seems completely unfounded in any sort of actual experience if you really think the entire legal field is going to “fail”.
^This. Getting business, particularly at the start of your career, will generally involve some level of personal relationship. You won’t get that over zoom. Once you’ve developed a solid reputation in an area you will get referrals that can be fully remote but that takes awhile. I have loved being fully remote the last 2 years but there is no question in my mind that it isn’t optimal for my firm (small niche firm with national practice). I think we end up with an office that is big enough for 1/3 of the people to be in office on any given day. I don’t know that I would hire an attorney who wants only remote.
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This is basically already happening in biglaw. I work with people all over the country that I have never met in person. People can and do promote associates in satellite offices that they have never met in person. And more and more clients are hiring attorneys without ever meeting them. It's been happening since before the pandemic. Clients are not going to want to take the time to travel to our offices or pay us to travel to their offices ever again.
I hope to be working from the moon in 10 years. Just waiting for Musk and Bezos to get that sorted out first. 🤓
In all seriousness, though, I think you will see more attorneys opening solo and small firms and escaping the rat race. Once you are fully remote for awhile and have significant experience and some networking power you start to see how easy it could be to do the same thing but work for yourself. You realize all you really need is a computer, a scanner/printer, and a few other things to start out in many practice areas and with low overhead you can have better work life balance.
But, I could be way off on that.
Just like pay scale, some firm will do it and others will follow.
I think a lot of these answers are making assumptions that people will be fully remote for their entire time from the minute they graduate, and that fully remote people never do anything in person. A senior associate who built a reputation for themselves before going remote can still make partner. Someone who goes to client meetings and court then goes back to their home office can make partner. People can go back and forth between remote and hybrid as their circumstances change.
All that matters is billables and work product. If someone is killing it by wfh, then they r going to want to keep them happy. Period.
It’s about results not FaceTime.
Fully remote at a small boutique, they said (and we’ll see how much they mean it) that being remote would not affect my partnership track