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What r the chances of a person who’s only had in-house experience for 7-8 yrs to lateral into Biglaw? I have had pretty rich experience for in-house (leading internal investigations, directly reporting to management on risks/legal issues, etc.). I recently moved to NYC (my company’s headquarters) but would love to go into Biglaw. Promotion seems to be an uphill battle at my company unless u r from Biglaw. How to start networking and get my foot in the Biglaw door?

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If you have good outside counsel relationships, I would start with those firms. If you could bring business from your current employer with you, you may be able to swing a counsel or NEP role.

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This! I’m lateraling to my outside counsel firm

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Don’t be put off by the above. Large law takes those who are not from top schools. And overlook grades (within reason) when they must. It’s about need. Talk to a recruiter. The market is crazed right now and so many firms are short and looking.

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Hi, thank you so much for your comment and help! I live in NYC and am looking at NYC only. Would much appreciate ur recommendations if you have any in NYC.

Agreed with leverage your outside counsel relationships. It doesn’t have to be to their firm/office necessarily, they know people, just tell all of them you’re looking (and to keep it discreet) and to let you know if their firm would be interested or if they’re aware of anyone else interested. If you could potentially get work from your current employer, great sales pitch to firms. Think about what your outside counsel do for you and whether you can do that and try and sell that as well as your practical business understanding and ability to talk directly to business people which will probably be way beyond their associates (don’t say that in so many words of course). Expect to take a class year cut, I would not expect biglaw will take you as a 7-8 year, but maybe you could go in as a 5-6.

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Did you go to a top law school? Were you top of your class or on law review? These things will help a lot. I would think about your legal experience and try to fit them into a practice group. Big law tends to be a lot more specialized than in-house can be so firms will want to be able to add you to a specific group. Using a good recruiter could help in your case because they can talk to firms directly and tell them if you’re willing to take a 2 or 3 or more year class cut. It would be very difficult for you to lateral as an 8th year. Firms don’t tend to take associates that are so senior.

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We’ve hired several recently with mixed results. Definitely possible, most are working out great. One not working out so great, as they only did one hyper-specific thing in house for 7 years, and don’t really know how to do anything else. If you have a remotely diverse skill set, you’ll be fine and a great asset wherever you go.

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Do you have the credentials for a white collar/investigations biglaw practice? Unfortunately, for litigation and regulatory practices, firms are more grade sensitive.

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Thank u for taking time to comment. Very helpful.

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I had one year of in house experience and two years of compliance. Got into big law with the right recruiter.

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Hey A2,congrats! That sounds really great. Could you pls recommend me that recruiter if he or she also covers NYC.

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