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I don’t think there’s a perfect agency. Most don’t have singular cultures. Your direct team, the accounts you serve—that’s your experience. Some pockets, awesome and others toxic.
Rising Star
Maybe. Just maybe. It’s like any other place to work and it sucks at times. Call me a skeptic.
Chief
They dont pay very competitively. It used to be worth it to produce all the great work they make.
Nowadays I think the strategy of luring people with quality work, but paying them below average is becoming less attractive. Millennials are pretty adamant about being paid their worth.
Chief
That’s sort of true. The industry is definitely skewing younger and cheaper these days.
But certain agencies are also paying a somewhat noticeable amount below average for the positions they do have. Until recently I would include Grey in that pile of agencies as well tbh.
Pro
Flat structure means it’s almost impossible to move up
Rising Star
As Martin said above, no agency is perfect. Maybe you want a raise. Maybe a promotion. Maybe as a creative, you don’t want to stay in one place forever.
I worked there, and you make fun ads…but the last thing you want to do from a business perspective is say “I’m making fun commercials, therefor I don’t need to pursue more money or opportunities to manage.” We make ads…don’t drink the kool aid and lose sight of the big picture.
I plan to stay as long as possible.
Lots of people just drink the kool-aid honestly. If you’re not blinded by the name, there are a few reasons to leave (underpay, unrealistic expectations, no WLB, toxic management, etc.). All varies by department, but yeah.
Rising Star
Sure.
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it’s not perfect but it’s better than the other three agencies i’ve worked at
I worked there for three years. I liked it a lot, made some good but not great work, liked the people, but I wanted to get paid more and work less. So I cashed it in for a better title and much more money at another good, bigger shop.
Also, never saw myself getting promoted there. Not soon enough, anyway.
Sure is nice to have on the ol’ resume though.
Rising Star
My friends who work there get hit up allll the time by recruiters so I’m assuming you can make a lot more money by leaving.
A talented friend works there. They love it. They make good work, but not good money. At some point, you have to flip those priorities.
WK on the resume is a good ticket to another shop. But I wonder too why anyone would leave after a year or two.
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The want or need more $$$
Rising Star
Loved his stunt. But I think they hired him on social for nyc.
True. But it was honestly a hell of an opportunity and I got a lot a lot out of it. No complaints here.
This thread made me want to see how Chase (Can I write for Sprite?) is doing. I’m surprised he left W+K after a little over 2-1/2 years.
Goes to show, sometimes you might think an agency is your dream job and for one reason or another, you find a company that better aligns with what you want.
Doing fine. W+K was great. People were great. Work was great. Opportunities were great. Just wanted to try other stuff. Currently trying other stuff.
Because maybe at the end of the day, it’s just a job that doesn’t contribute much to society? or when they try to do good, it comes from a place of wanting to win pretentious self congratulatory industry awards? so people go someplace where they get paid more money and use that to enjoy with friends and family?