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What was your "I know I'm done moment" that made you decide you were ready to leave consulting? I am at my second firm with a much better WLB but starting to question whether I need to just exit altogether. I also hear about many ex-consultants being "bored" in industry jobs so want to make sure I am really thoughtful about what it is I am looking for outside of a consulting role. I am over the hierarchy and politics in consulting but not sure it that much better in industry.

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Sitting in a meeting with a GS14 and explaining basic program management process. And he kept disagreeing with me. And I thought ‘Do I want to do this type of thing the rest of my life? Explaining a simple concept to a simpleton? Went back to school and then jumped a few months later. Now I am doing stuff I used to dream about doing: growth strategy and operational excellence for bottom line improvement. And getting paid more then what most principal’s makes at BAH

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My decision to leave was partly driven by emotions, which isn’t a good way to make a career decision. When a principal I was working with would call me at 7 o’clock on Saturday night to review a deck. I knew I didn’t want to become that. I also got screwed out of bonus since another Principal took a write up from my project and gave it to someone on a completely different project. I came to consulting from industry, and knew I always wanted to go back. I miss the excitement and play hard environment that comes with consulting. I wouldn’t say IM bored industry. It’s just not very exciting work. And I miss most of the people I worked with in Consulting. Probably not a bad decision to leave, but necessarily the best decision.

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So I’m in industry now (title has not been updated yet). I get paid very well, the work is easy, my colleagues are lazy, and I work maybe an hour a day. I AM BORED OUT OF MY MIND!

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There are lots of ways to fill the time if you're bored and not working hard. I came in from industry. I was bored out of my mind in consulting. No depth of operations understanding in any sector, you don't get to know the businesses, the project teams don't understand anything about how the work they do will impact the organization, which creates issues in other parts for many solutions. worse, the perpetual competing on everything distracts from good solutions and undermines the work product. I won't hire non-SME consulting firms without strong internal people to tightly manage.

I came to consulting from industry. I can relate to being a bit bored on the job but it gave me so much extra time to do stuff outside of work! I started a side business, got in insanely good shape (2 hours a day in the gym) and had plenty of time for friends and family. I miss having real weeknights. :(

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Yeah 2x is worth it for now, but I’ll plan to go back eventually. I was very underpaid since I grew through my company internally. If I went back even to that same job I’d be making a lot more!

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When I was told there’s a 60% chance of promotion this round but definitely 95% chance next round... for the third time.

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Same! Passed up 3 times.

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When I developed stomach ulcers and lost 15 pounds bc my manager wasn’t ok with us stopping to eat lunch

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Cruel!

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When I reached the engagement manager role in consulting and realized that my professional life In consulting would be a series of progressively larger sales territories and targets. I know it’s a gross oversimplification but that’s what triggered me to leave.

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Hey VPS1 - glad you found something that was a fit. How early did you start looking? I’m tied down in consulting for another 5-6 months but am also interested / involved in healthcare and trying to start my search / outreach now.

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When my leadership team threw me under the boss after bringing me onboard to lead an engagement that was severely over scoped and under budgeted and backed by a technology that was completely not ready. I slept less than 4 hours a night for 4 months straight, developed severe mental health issues and the partner on the case told me that I abdicated my responsibilities for taking a break to care for my mental health. Never felt more betrayed by my leaders than when they used me as a scapegoat to the client and the internal firm leadership (while my team stood by me and vouched for me). That’s when I knew it was time to get out

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I’m sorry this happened to you. Seen it happen with my own eyes too many times to feel pride In my job. I sincerely hope life is treating you well and that you’re on the path back to yourself 🌈

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Getting placed on a long term staff aug project

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Wait this is me right now. I’m really considering leaving because of a year long staff aug. i can’t take this work anymore....

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When every single high up who called me, largely called me to ask me to do work or complain about something I hadn’t done/not doing. It just took me a while to realize almost anyone high up in this line of work has little to no empathy.

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Honest question - do overgrown children tend to rise to the top because emotionally mature folks exit for greener pastures? To my understanding, the consulting industry largely exists as an insurance policy for industry executives. But hey, I’m all ears...

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Well, I worked at FANG for the same amount of money and half the number of hours. I’ve been thinking “I’m done” for a while now! Handcuffed by immigration but honestly reaching a breaking point

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S&O manager

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In terms of long term realization, hearing a senior partner, who was working Sunday- Friday by default, complain that his young child was bothering him when he was working on his laptop on Saturday - the one day he was home. Immediately realized that there is no chance I'm dedicating that much of my life to work. The straw that broke the camels back was having insomnia and multiple panic attacks at 530am after working consistently 9am-4am for several weeks on an overscoped project.

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i had dreamt of myself inside a ppt slide and cell of excel....

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First moment: wanted to rip my hair off because I was on a PMO that sucked Second moment: cried 4 times in one week when I never thought I’d cry because of work Been looking for an exit ever since

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In consulting, I was constantly crying at work during nervous breakdown or felt under appreciated, like I tried my best and I know I’m out perform, but never enough. The partner made me feel like piece of shit and I suffered depression. Now in industry, I never cried again in a job. Maybe I became stronger and bullet proof from consulting but clearly I don’t want to take anymore bullets.

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You need to a robust therapy plan . Have several experts in your mental wellness team. Psychologist, Psychiatrist, sexologist (yes this can help), life coach and audit your social media and TV content. If you’re on IG or YouTube follow people who blog about self empowerment etc. and flip your personalized algorithms. A whole year of this has helped me find repair my self esteem and plan out my exit. I’ve now been staffed with the partner from hell who started the bad cycle in the first place but I’m literally about to serve my notice as I plan to emigrate and join an awesome company. I’m not as moved by my leadership. I can operate at a 60% peace confidence level (which is good enough)

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Cried every day for two weeks straight.

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When I realised that I would either be stuck in the same endless PMO forever because the client was overly attached to me, or basically force my wait out and lose my T1 evaluation and bonus. Before anyone calls out my Millennial lack of patience, I grinded through it for 3 years and asked multiple times to switch projects (to no avail) before deciding to leave. Also my Director/mentor since day 1 left and made my decision much easier.

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After I revamped a critical deliverable 3 months into working here and then was given misogynist comments on my end of year evaluation

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When my fiancé looked at me, stressed out beyond belief for the Nth month in a row, and told me I needed to calm the fuck down or quit. It was the wake up call I needed because I wasn’t getting it anywhere else; everyone was praising the grind and normalizing it

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Exactly. Normalization is one of the worst parts. We don't realize how unhealthy it is for so long. Glad you had someone to call it out for you!

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Being treated as a resource, constantly being told they help with career goals yet not assigning me to jobs nor roles either aligned to my skills or my career direction. Promises/ statements made by leaders not aligned to reality consistently over past few years.

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Tired of not having an actual “job”. About 1% of the workforce has a defined position and every...single...other...job is just a different level of “consultant”. And then you have to constantly justify your existence. It’s like being Wesley from Princess Bride: “Good night. Sleep well. I’ll most likely kill you in the morning.” There are sooo many other reasons (most already posted) but those are my top 2.

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First kid made me realize I’m spending wayyy too many evenings / weekend hours tied up with bs

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