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What would you do: in discussion with a small agency to potentially work full time. They wanted to do a 60 day engagement first to see if its a good fit. Kick the tires from both parties makes sense. They asked for my rates and gave them an hourly freelance rate to where they asked if I’d be willing to do a rate that was based off my “future” un-guaranteed employment salary, less than $100/hr, which was less than half my freelance rate. Does this sound fishy? Am I wrong to be skeptical?

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They can’t use you as a freelance but pay only full time rates. FT assumes health insurance, vacations, holidays and other staff benefits. Freelance rates allow for all of that and the days you don’t get any work. They are being tight. It would be fair if you came on with full benefits at a full time rate with a three month probation period. That’s what happens in Australia for example. So then they get to see if you’re a good fit and if it works you stay on. You need that amount of time to get enough chances to prove yourself.

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It does sound fishy. A negotiated middle ground seems more reasonable. Both parties have to compromise.

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Agree. It’s fishy and they’re taking advantage of your knowledge, skills and expertise at substandard, discounted rates. Agencies need to pay to play, so please don’t agree with a low ball offer. Let us all stop the heavy discounting. Additionally, please note that you’ll be responsible for all your taxes, expenses and your benefits for these 60 days. And of course, there’s no guarantee that they’ll keep you on or that you would like to continue working for them.

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yikes. multiple red flags in regards to trust and appreciation of your role.

Try before you buy has always gotten me the job except twice. Both instances they wanted to pay lower than my usual daily rate. In other words tell them no.

No. And if you work in a state like California where it’s At-Will Employment it doesn’t even matter.

Hello to the no. That’s low.

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