Whats the difference between NY biglaw and other biglaw?

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The former is in NY and the latter not

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Is that the main distinguishing feature?

NY Associate: Not married, rents a studio apartment, went to Columbia/NYU, still has negative net worth 6 years after graduating, socialist.

Non-NY Associate: Married, 3 kids with a 4th on the way, upgrading from 4 bedrooms to 5, went to *checks notes* large state school in Midwest/Southeast/Texas, net worth is pushing $1mm 6 years after graduating, closeted Republican.

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Why in the NY Big Law bowl if in SF then getting defensive?

Obvi NY big law more intense. Everything is more intense in NY. That and the clients are investment banks, not pig farms or hotel chains.

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A7 I mean agreed I live here for a reason but having a lower take home for a more expensive life and doing the same work still stings

I work in a non NY office but we do have a big NY office that I work with a fair amount. They are definitely the most intense, gunnery, worst culture office. (All relative, I still think we’re way better than other firms in terms of culture). I wouldn’t work with them as much if we had more of that work in my office but my practice area is bigger in NY. I feel like the clients are different too … much more casual about scheduling late evening and weekend calls and just taking for granted we’ll make ourselves available, expecting everything yesterday etc. Our NY folks often seem to be working later than me despite my time zone being behind.

It’s like the easiest way to hit hours too… I fall behind and then I sign up for an NY deal or two and suddenly I’m breaking 200 without really trying. And then I hate everything about my life and have to take a break from NY deals for a few months before we rinse and repeat. 😅

Don’t get me wrong we have intense expectations and work a ton in the non NY offices too… biglaw is biglaw. But NY is like another level.

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Worked in NY biglaw and outside NY biglaw.

NY is by far more brutal. More hours, higher expectations, more demanding partners, more cutthroat associates, clients want things yesterday. Take home pay is less, the city smells, homeless people everywhere, smaller offices (if you have one at all). On the plus side lawyer quality is much better in NY (generally speaking) and if you ever make it to partner level you’ll be able to charger higher fees by the sole fact that you’re in NY.

Outside of NY the converse is true with the additional caveat that you’ll also hate NY attorneys for looking down on you. But don’t fret, you’ll likely take home more than they do.

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I have done both and think generally speaking you work the same amount of hours. Biggest difference is take home pay and COL. I am grateful though for the time I spent in NY (not necessarily for the work but because I’m glad to have experienced living in NYC).

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You get paid less in NY because of taxes. I’m talking atleast 1k less bi weekly for juniors if you compare to Texas. Mid levels are losing up to 2k bi weekly just on taxes alone.

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