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What’s the perception of Infosys, Cognizant, TCS? Are they challenging EY, Deloitte etc now? Many ex-big 4s are joining them now.

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Imo still viewed as bodyshops that compete on price alone

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When my group competes for tech projects, we differentiate on change management, experiential design, and other high-touch topics. The groups you mentioned ONLY compete on price. In this way, they are only challenging our bottom line, and as our firms continue to streamline our offshore dev centers, we are weathering this challenge well

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That last part is not true. Capgemini bought Altran, a very well respected engineering firm. In that space, they charge a ton per hour. The pure play Indian firms absolutely do compete based on price and scale...not on higher value components

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Agreed on all comments above...but I will say that at least they have the ability to deliver a technical project. I’m order of capability: Accenture Deloitte Capgemini Cognizant

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SC1 is spot on. These firms are trying to compete with big4 but only compete on price. Management is trying to push for pure consulting work in current projects and with new work. But so far - heavy heavy on implementation. Sauce: current cognizant

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If you leave, take me with you :) Also not staying for the non-existent promotions

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As C1 said, mainly competitive on price

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Working at IC now. Can confirm it is a body shop. There is a major push internally though to transform to compete with the Big 4 in the near term.

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Still a bodyshop based on my experience...

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You’ll be the offshore resource in this scenario

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Accenture and Deloitte are the top 2 and vary a bit depending on industry, software, and area of the business. It is a pretty big drop off after that. I would put IBM and PWC above Cap and Cognizant snd certainly Infosys. Oracle, Microsoft and SAP are better than Cognizant and Infosys if that is what you are specifically implementing. KPMG and EY aren’t really players here.

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Agree with Amazon here. EY absolutely struggles in technologies. 90% of leadership doesn’t know SAP but they are a part of the practice. As a result, they struggle in practice development. The way it impacts downstream practitioners is that nobody is qualified in identifying the right training for staff. They have also no sense of who to promote to leadership. Maturity in large complex projects are lacking but mostly a reflection on leadership not downstream consultants who are overworked. It’s a very toxic environment and the talented ones have left and the remaining talent will leave too. The culture has been severely compromised through dirty politics and favoritism that’s ruined many genuine careers. They absolutely don’t know how to retain top talent. But most of all, a thankless leadership is what kills motivation. Glad, I am no longer a part of EY. They have a long way to go!

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Big-4 joining Infosys, TCS and CTS ? I haven’t worked for those but I had two of them as vendor. Fundamental shift in the culture, hierarchical relationships and petty politics. Ultra micro management, lower cost resources impacting quality of work and what not. They can compete only on price with onshore/offshore model.

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Sorry...before you said “lower cost resources” I thought you were talking about the Big 4

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