When a senior associate tells you “I wouldn’t bill more than X on this assignment” and then you purposely bill more than X because who are you?? Who can relate

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Huh? A lot of times when senior associates say that it’s for a rough guideline so you don’t get super off track. We might tell the associate if there have been conversations with the client that we would only bill X hours, but usually we’ll just write it off without telling you, so I’m not sure the point of purposely billing more hours just to stick it to the senior associate, especially because it’s the partners that will review your hours and wonder why it’s taking you so many hours to draft a memo/research/draft a motion, etc.

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The associate won’t be looking at my bills either so I didn’t stick it to him. He won’t know. It’s just the principle when someone arbitrarily tells you what to do you don’t do it.

I... what? This is such a bizarre reaction to a common instruction. When I advise a junior on how much time I’m expecting a task to take, it’s usually because I don’t want them off in the weeds. I usually ask them to check in when they’re getting close to that point if they feel like they’re not done or finding what I need.

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I’ve been in biglaw for all of six months so who am I to say, but I think this information is helpful and I make a point of asking for this info whenever possible. For my first assignment (when I didn’t get an estimate) I spent like 10 hours going way into the weeds and drafting a very detailed memo-like email. Turns out the partner just wanted like 2 paragraphs and had to write off some of my time.

Also if I get an estimate of, say 4 hours to do X, and I’ve spent 2.5 and I’m barely a third of the way through, it’s a good sign for me to check in with my supervisor and course-correct.

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Keep doing that. This is the exact reason senior associates give you time estimates! You’ll also learn more and become more efficient! You sound like a great associate and one that will keep getting assignments 😊

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If I’m giving junior associates that instruction, it’s because their overbilling was brought to my attention by the partner (who probably wrote off all of the junior’s time), and I was asked to try and guide the junior along. So ... cool story, I guess?

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Yeah this isn’t one of those cases

We're gonna be mad.

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I. What. What are you hoping to gain from this? Like if it just took you longer, sure, it is what it is but did you just go looking for extra things to make it a longer task?

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Wrong guess. Lol.

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