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I don’t care. I like it. You don’t like going to client site, find a different job and stop ruining my life with your stupid surveys. Do you know how hard it is to learn anything or get guidance as a junior person remotely? Oh good for you! You now can fit a workout during the day!
100%. Men designed it so they get hotel stays and free travel while their wives take care of the kids.
Whew its some hit dogs hollering up in here! Some of y'all debate every opinion thats not yours to the death. Who hurt you??
I think it’s a better benefit for young 20 somethings than boomers or anyone that has kids. Many people leave so they don’t have to travel once they start a family, so no, don’t think so OP.
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That's why you are the MD and I'm the SC
Op, you make a fine point but you are battling with every comment and coming off as super arrogant.
Hey “ Author Deloitte” - don’t they ask/ require you to complete Discrimination Training? If so, don’t you realize that you are an age- discriminator?
Pure and simple - if the Big folk at Deloitte figure out who you are (that couldn’t REALLY happen, could it?) you will be warned, unless it is deemed to be repeated and egregious, then you will be fired. Good luck with references, and good luck with the rest of your life.
Chief
It’s a lot easier from a sales and relationship standpoint, as well as team cohesion, though I’d be happy to go down to 2-3 days a week or travel 2-3 weeks out of the month instead of weekly.
Rising Star
I think a lot depends on the client and the level of traveler. I did 4 to 5 days a week previously because I worked with 3 clients in 5 locations. 1 day every week or other week was enough.
But I have a difficult project right now where we need people together for several weeks to get alignment, and the client has never left their offices, even during shutdowns in their city / state. I have 2 out of 10 people on our team on site. Hope we will go back to almost exclusively virtual, but I'm not willing to guarantee it.
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Comparing today to past years is impossible. Obviously there was no email and ftp was very rare until the early 80's. A 1 hour phone call during business hours cost half a hotel night. Travel before deregulation was very expensive. Round trip flights in the 80's cost over $800 with 2 weeks notice. In 1985 dollars.
The Greatest Generation, mostly men from WWII thought nothing of forcing others to be away for a week or 2 at a time. Oldest Boomers weren't making decisions influencing rules till the late 80's. As they became the majority, and as airlines got deregulated they first changed the rules to go home every weekend. Then later to going home for junior staff on Thursday night.
Rising Star
OP definitely has a personal agenda and is only seeing her preferred facts.
Example : she (as well as many others) have said that the last 1.5 years is proving that everything can be done remotely.
Let me say that sales wise, that's not correct. We are selling well right now, obviously, but that's all based on previously established relationships.
We are selling because we already know the players, have built trust already with clients, the economy is booming, and clients are desperate to adjust to the new world.
As our players, and those of the clients, change we will need to get face to face. Working in the same physical room as key stakeholders is how we impress and build relationships.
People that have already built their careers, are already established, and just want to coast, are the people that prefer to work from home. Those of us that are still trying to accelerate and willing to go through the grind to move up the ladder want every chance we can get to face clients and work closely with them and our teammates.
Those that want to work from home can do that. Those jobs have always been there and will surely increase now in the new world we are facing.
I don't see why work from homers get so emotional about this issue. Do what you want and the rest of us can do what we want.
Perhaps they don't want to be left behind in the career track if traveling gets back to normal.
Can’t speak to why it started because I wasn’t there (neither were others on this post) but from my early days in consulting (late 1990s) I can say it was hard to get anything done without being in person. People didn’t trust you until they met you, there was no video conference, and most importantly data didn’t move very quickly so it was often better to pick up files on portable drives and such, there was no cloud computing.
P2 bringing the hammer of logic down. That’s how you make Partner
I was single and in my late 20s to early 30s and had a good 5 year of traveling for consulting projects. I enjoyed it, had my freedom, time to myself and worked with many colleagues from all over North America, some great cities I visited, amazing restaurants I ate at and yes met some ladies as well :). All this traveling also helped me achieve Marriott Platinum status for life and gold status on star alliance for a good 10 years. It tremendously helped s traveling around the world with my wife and kids - upgrades and access to marriott and airport lounges was great along with priority with the airlines helped.
I enjoyed and no regrets. I still enjoy to travel but no more mon to thurs / weekly, rather once a month to visit a client for few days I’m fine with it and is manageable. Though I haven’t traveled for 1.5 year and do miss it a bit
It allows you to bill every hour of the day and an excuse to be onsite selling.
Rising Star
Well some companies don’t bill by the hour, so that logic doesn’t hold up.
On-site selling (building relationships) is definitely an advantage of being onsite. Nothing wrong with that
Rising Star
Not sure it's a generational thing.
I had a manager on a project that would fly out Sunday night to a client site. Except he wouldn't get to the client side at 8:00 a.m. Monday morning, he'd sleep in and then show up whenever else flew in. He wasn't somewhere where there was difficult flights and needed to take a connection, he lived in Atlanta.
Rising Star
I mean, this is also a guy who would stay in a hotel when we are having a training in his own city where he didn't live too far away.
Let's just say this was only one of a few examples.
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Chief
You say that like it's a bad thing
Exactly