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Both are accurate. On average, the earth is warming. This causes all sorts of climate impacts, and some of them manifest as weather events seemingly unrelated to “warming” like unusually violent storms.
Pro
Cool. Let’s continue to pretend this isn’t happening right up until the moment that civilization collapses.
Rising Star
warming can be confusing for most people as plenty of climate change impact is also winter related change. change is more neutral
Rising Star
I think we switched to calling it “climate change” because some people were dense and argued “hOw CaN wE hAvE gLoBaL wArMiNg LoOk ItS sNoWiNg!”
This. Never forget the snowball in the senate that “proved” global warming was a hoax because it was cold out! People love to conflate climate and weather.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/26/senate-james-inhofe-snowball-climate-change
Enthusiast
Canada is not immune. You just don’t hear about it.
https://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/report
Californian fires also has to do with Forrest management...
This is a Fox News talking point. Scary to see it repeated here. Kpmg you Russian?
Chief
I thought they found arsonists were behind those fires
Chief
Thanks McKinsey for your insightful response
Chief
You really think trees in Canada and other places are climate change resistant😂
Climate change exacerbated the issues in California, according to my forest service wife. You can thin and prescribe burn all you want, but if the fire is operating under extra hot and dry conditions then your gonna have a tougher time. Also California’s winds are out of control. If you don’t prescribe burn or thin, then the fire is gonna burn at more intensity than what the forest can handle. For a data point, we just had a fire out here, and because it traveled into a burn scar and a prescribed burn area, they were able to build containment lines before the fire reached the untreated pet of the forest. But if they had the Cali winds the fire would have jumped the line and our ski area would have burned down.
I feel like it was around 5-10 years ago they went with the broader term “climate change.”
From my basic understanding, the reason forest fires get so bad on the west coast has to do with those states’ policies on keeping dead wood/underbrush present rather than removing it.
Global warming is one of the symptoms of climate change, not the only one
Chief
Other way around. The fundamental geophysics issue is that the earth is retaining energy that used to be dissipated into space — it is warming. That warming causes changes to the climate. “Climate change” as a catchall term emphasizes the fact that the additional energy that the earth is retaining manifests on average as warming, but locally can show up in ways that seemingly have nothing to do with warming — even some extreme cold local temperatures are caused by overall planetary warming.
The terminology switched because it is misleading. Globally, the earth is warming on an average annual basis. Localized in any particular area, the results are more or less pronounced and are not limited to just a simple increase in daily temperatures by a few degrees because small changes in global temperatures can have significant follow on effects.
Rising Star
This is a good explanation - climate change, poor forest management, but also terrible laws around real estate in California.
https://youtu.be/OerszexsuLw
The trees elsewhere are not climate change resistant. I was as far north as Alaska last summer, for example, and the entire state basically was on fire.
When it became a political issue
Sorry to break your heart sis/bro - our Canadian trees are not climate change resistant.