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Publicis Sapient Hi Everyone Please help to decide which is best between thse two offers.
Year of experience - 1.8 years
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Publicis Sapient 16.10 CTC
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It sounds like they already moved quite a bit to meet your expectation, to include upgrading the entire job to a senior level position so they could offer the salary you asked for. I don’t think it would be a good look to now ask for even more; that’s my personal opinion.
I think it shows transparency by the organization that they pay attention to their internal equity and really couldn’t afford that pay in that original title, but they wanted you bad enough to re-classify you. I think it shows they’re doing all they can. I would not ask for more.
Is the job description significantly changing?
By the way, even if you ask and it’s a “no”, it’s very unlikely that they would rescind your offer. Especially after going through all the time to interview you. And the job market being what it is. You don’t get what you don’t ask for.
They didn’t give me a formally updated job description but it would mean overseeing a small team and more responsibility/ownership. The initial plan was for the role to grow into a senior role after a year, so I guess they’re just expediting that process for me.
It depends if your job responsibilities will change because of the new title. This is something you can ask them. If you will be doing the same thing then that’s a plus for you, because you get a senior title but not expected to do senior level work. Besides if you decided to level the company you can apple for other senior positions because you have that title. People under estimate the impact of a job title on a resume, it helps dramatically.
I would probably simply ask for a formal updated job description so that you and they are on the same page.
I kinda doubt they “really couldn’t afford that” more like they wanted to make sure they could ask as much as possible from you in order to pay that much. I agree you should ask about the job description and say you’d expect additional compensation for taking on responsibilities outside of the original role. If you really don’t want to ask for a higher number ask how and when they would be able to review compensation throughout the year.
Yes they’ve been very clear that they review annually so it’s reassuring that I wouldn’t be stuck, I just don’t want to mess up my chance at a bigger base pay. But I also don’t want to be greedy!
They aren’t really giving you more money if they are also giving you a different job with more responsibilities. You wanted 95k for the description presented. The bump in role means bump in pay.
I'd recommend that you ask a few questions before determining to ask or not to ask. "I appreciate you making adjustments to find a place for me within [X company] and have met my initial salary expectations. However, the initial salary expectations I stated were based on my understanding of the role I applied for. Could you give me a better understanding of the typical salary range for that role and the role you're offering me?"... show appreciation for working with you but inquire about the range. Also check Glassdoor. And if you know anyone that works at this company, ask them if they know. If the salary they're offering for this new role is fair, Id recommend softly negotiating for a little more. I never recommend taking the initial offer. Even if it's $1,000 it's always better to ask.
Id also recommend in the future never giving salary expectations. When you apply, put "negotiable". When you get your interview and they ask say that you're interested in understanding what the range is for this role. If it's too low, tell them and tell them why. If it's high enough. Say "thank you, I think that range is workable" and you'd like to continue conversations.
It really depends on what you think you're worth and what others with a similar skillset and experience would be paid. Just because the level is different doesn't necessarily mean the expectations are different. If you think you're worth more ask for more, though it would have been nicer if you had asked for more the first time.
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With the request for your new job description, I would ask for the salary range for your new position. If the company is transparent, then they will provide you with the salary range. Usually the JD specifies the experience and education level. Therefore, you may assess carefully before you go back to them. Because you want to have a negotiation point.
I always negotiate. However, it sounds like they gave you the senior role to be able to meet the 95k. I don't know that I would ask for more, personally.
I would not ask for more. They are saying they really want you but have decided that for that pay they will need more out of you. If you really think that giving the extra for the extra pay isn’t worth it then you should say no to the job.
If you really want this job, which I suspect you do cause you were willing to interview even knowing they were likely not going to meet your salary expectations, then take the job. You can negotiate for a small raise later after you have proven you deserve it
My suggestion: Start working. Prove your worth and then you can ask for more.
I think you can have a discussion, but don't go too aggressive though
Wait till after your initial 90days or 180days of employment before you ask