Where were the anti war people when US invaded Iraq (No Weapons were found) and Afghanistan (eventually left Afghanistan in a limbo)

Azerbaijan and Armenia fought. Pakistan attacked India etc etc ..list of wars go on. US list of war mistakes are #1. Note: I am not supporting this war

PS: I am anti war and I don't support Russia. I am against Putin and want Peace

Does a white country attack get more visibility? Or this was a boredom of Covid lockdowns ? What is the role of UN etc?

There are a lot of reasons why this war is getting more attention/traction than previous ones. Some may be the 'white Christian European' examples that make it look somewhat hypocritical. There may be others that are more understandable-like a generation of Americans learning from the mistakes made in Iraq/Afghanistan being horrified but not advocating for the US to send troops to Ukraine, most of of Europe seeing this happen to neighboring countries so it feels very close to home (or for the uS, close to territory we have promised to defend)/more people have ties, a lack of a clear reason for Russia to invade a foreign country and try to destroy it like he's back in the 1800s, the power of the internet and social media making it easier and easier to get a lot of real-time and personal experiences to the rest of the world, and Ukraine having a master communicator as a leader.

There is so much more to war (or rather the decision that goes into going to war) than meets the eye.

Won’t comment on each and don’t know the minute details of each either, but I would look specifically into Iraq in the 90s.

We are not the leader when it comes to aggression or war crimes. I don’t support war either but at the same time not blind to the fact that conflicts are inevitable. Boils down to resources.

American media has its own interests, like the rest of the world. Ratings matter but that isn’t to say lives do not. The UN has laws that most signatory nations abide by. However, it has no enforcement arm and is left up to the member states to uphold the laws.

The silliness of these "I don't support Russia, but, what about x,y, and z" is dumbfounding.

OP, war is terrible regardless of the circumstances, but some circumstances make it necessary or more justified. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is an attack on liberal democracy and hence the outrage. Ukraine is being attacked because Ukrainians engaged in the democratic process and chose closer ties with the west. An authoritarian regime is trying to wipe out a democratic nation for precisely that fact that it is a democratic nation.

So yes, principles of liberal democracy are worth fighting for, even going to war for.

Western media/populace is without a doubt influenced by who the victims look like. What’s happening in Ukraine is awful and the sympathy is deserved, but it would be naive to think that a country in Africa or Asia would get a similar response.

We’re seeing this even in real-time with the refugees that are being accepted and how these ones are “civilized” unlike those from Middle East crises. It’s all so gross.

On March 20, 2003, I was in the Boston Commons holding an "Out of Iraq NOW" sign and getting maced by a cop.

Where were you, OP?

This post makes me, a 37 y/o, feel very very very old. There were tons of protests. As a college student, I participated in one of them (specifically against the war in Iraq and the overreaches of the PATRIOT act). A lot of you were just too young to remember it, and it occurred before social media had really taken off, so there weren’t as many protest selfies to enshrine it.

Virtually every war the US has participated in has had a robust anti-war effort attempting (unsuccessfully) to act as a countervailing force. This is all well documented if you dig around a little.

Since you used India, I will point an interesting example (Indian here)-

Pakistan funded extremist groups has been carrying a lot of terrorist attacks in Bombay (now Mumbai) over years..but the attack that got the most response was 26/11 when most affluent neighborhoods of Mumbai were targeted. There is noise when the elite gets hits..nobody cares of the average Joe.

This war is a creation of west as much as of Russia. In geostrategic terms, Russia would have never allowed NATO at its border given the history, same as what US did during Cuba crisis. US kept pushing Ukraine towards some la la land to needle Russia. I dont support any war, but media narrative right now is racist, hypocritical and pukeworthy. Remember NYT peddled the WMD narrative during Irag war!

Hot take: We did Iraq a favor by toppling Saddam Hussein.

While I am unable to sleep seeing the news. I am also looking at Syria, Iraq and so many countries destroyed by war and no one spoke

Iraq had a record of invading nearby neighbors, Iran and Kuwait comes to mind. Afghanistan was ran not unlike North Korea but has a fundamental religious element infused. Even if the US was in the wrong here to invade both countries, those are not the type of regimes you want around if you are peace advocate. Sometimes it takes war to begotten peace

We care about our allies more than our non allies and our allies typically our democracies or countries of strategic importance. If Russia was attacking Belarus, we wouldn't care as much

A lot of us were in high school or middle school...

Lol @ Pakistan attacking India. Conveniently left out the thousands killed in Pakistan because of American's so called 'war on terror'.

Proximity definitely plays a role.

How many corporations and countries now crying out for Ukraine did the same as China destroyed one freedom after another in Hong Kong, also amounting to invasion by an authoritarian state of a democratic one?

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I’m sure a major contributor to the visibility of this particular war over others is due to the US own interests.

We are much more interested in our global rivals’ (China and Russia) dealings that those of other countries who we do not consider ourselves to be in competition with.

I personally was out protesting the Iraq war and I organized an event called Assembling Peace where we hosted 300 people for a night with activists bands, local politicians and organizations for folks to sign up to get involved and make a difference.
I have noticed that a lot of people are (justifiably) angry at Putin and the Russian government and forget that the US has been quite involved in many many wars with similar motivations. We probably can’t do much to affect Russia, but we can do more to affect our own country and government.

OP is a 🤡

The best part is the Biden administration cares more about Ukraine’s border than our southern border.