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Both - we definitely differentiate on our SAP business process expertise, especially in Finance and Supply Chain. In my experience (and I was with Deloitte before), EY is better at creating a business solution. Some of the people are fing phenomenal from an SMR perspective - I mean, sometimes I just sit with my mouth open trying to absorb as much as possible.
Delivery is excellent in certain areas and but we are definitely still growing scale, so still tough to compete with ACN and Deloitte in that, bit chugging along.
I think a big challenge which I suspect is similar to PWC is that there a lot more experienced hires from all over vs homegrown and still working through a cultural identity footprint.
To pile into EY1, we do a lot of great delivery. I've led full ERP implementations. We have done some amazing work. I'm proud to work for EY.
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I hope I get a good one then on my next one :)
That’s the problem everywhere I guess, people just want to manage and oversee as opposed to holding a competency and build their own brand. Based on conversations I believe Deloitte got a major chunck of marketshare (not judging on the quality of delivery) and EY stands next.
I am PwC myself so I know the reality, but it probably stands at 3.
SAP AC1 - 🤪🤪🤪😂😂😂🤣😆🤣🤣🤮
No one beats PwC
EY is awesome. I have had a great experience there.
And Deloitte might be the biggest, but that doesn't mean best
Not pwc
EY for sure!
Agree we are big but the quality of our personnel is questionable at times across all levels. The problem with the firm is we have too many people chasing promotion who want to "coordinate and oversee" so they can get away from the hands on work asap. We don't reward people to develop deep hands on expertise (think SAP mentors) and we need a hell of a lot more of these people. I'm curious to know what it's like at other firms.
D2, it's great over here at EY. What do you want to know?
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Deloitte 2, EY has the same problem. Way too many people in the the SAP space don't know anything about solution capabilities and try to stick to "managing," thus ending up doing a piss poor job on guiding engagements.
EY2, you must he on a bad project. I haven't run into that situation and I've been here 5 years.
I know ACN has a pretty big footprint in the SAP space. However, I hear more stories about how terrible their implementation and support from ACN went due to wanting to handle ALL areas of SAP. I do hear good things about Deloitte from an FI perspective and EY from an SCM side. So, I think that it really depends on what the firm is specializing and capitalizing in. What do you guys think?
^^ you are spot on.. I won’t say we are not trying but with the (partnership) model we guys operate, not everyone think alike and have similar goals. It’s way more easy to establish and grow a practice in a Non-Big4 (comparatively). PwC is growing strong, but taking baby steps.. i have been with Deloitte as well, not sure about EY & KPMG, but I feel we are the most conservative among all (blame the history too!)
@SM1, EY1- would like to know more about SAP Practice.. are you guys more strategy, assessment & roadmap focused or doing delivery as well?
A1 - um ACN is not Big4. It is bundled with the Tech firms like Tata, ICS and IBM 😝