Why are there so many “full-stack” engineers that can’t write basic HTML and CSS?

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Because there are VERY few people who can be truly good at everything. "Full stack" is a company trying to save money, and an engineer desperate for a job. There is a ton of stuff to know in the front end, a ton of stuff to know in business logic, in databases, in security, in networking...

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Agreed it's best when people play to their strengths but understand the rest of what's going down. Working with strictly front end and back end devs in the past, I've had a lot of problems with poor integration. Because they don't understand what's happening across that boundary well enough

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Those are the self proclaimed “full-stack engineers” who watched a youtube tutorial on how to make a hello world page and never touched the front end again

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I assume you're exaggerating a bit. usually when you have full stack devs doing UI work, it's not a UI/UX focused application (otherwise you'd have designers)

So most full stack devs when they get UI work, it's a small, simple piece of their workload. Never get challenged, never upskill to the same level as the stuff you're more focused on

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Hahaha that's ok I believe you. My point is FSD means a lot more than JavaScript and CSS. Things like middleware, data architecture, app deployment, networking/security, etc

Not everyone is gonna be an expert at every piece. People have strengths and weaknesses. Their weakness aligned with your strength is not a real comparison

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I’m full stack because that was the title at my last role. I’m a data engineer now because that is the title at my current role.

That said, I know how to write html and css, but I have to look up the structure for an html every time (I never remember the correct syntax).

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I’m full stack because my team consists of 3 people. I have a certain level of respect for front end only people. I had a weird UI bug that took me the better part of the day to figure out and it was just negative zeroes? I hate JS so much

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Because with only 3 people, one person may drift to back-end and another to front-end, but the work won't be evenly divided and people will need to cross their boundaries to get all the work done.

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Short answer is that they are usually those self-proclaimed full-stack. LOL. That's it.

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or they are the ones who had undergone training. Yet, they are not just able to apply what they learned. lol

Must have been thise self-taught ones that never bothered learning the basics because they thought they could start ahead and didn't realize their importance.

Learning how to do it and actually using it are two different things. There are engineers who know what to do and have the idea on how to do it but can't.

Re-reading my statement I felt like I was a bit harsh about the facts. But definitely, things can be learned through experience when given enough time and effort.

Wonder if HTML/CSS has kinda been moved to the back burner with all the frame works gaining in importance. The HTML/CSS experts out there might be older because typically you really had to learn it to build on the web say 10-20 years ago.

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