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Why did you pick your firm? -for those fortunate enough to have options coming out of recruiting, what tipped the scales for you

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Ok, so what is the justification for having that goal be 50%? Is 50% of consulting globally female and Mck is addressing a blind spot? Strategy consulting? Are firms or teams at a 50/50 split higher performing? Absent a specific performance goal like that, I'd argue that a more equitable goal would be a better scoring system for candidates that doesn't discriminate against gender so that men and women have a fair shot...Then the cards fall where they do. A way Mck (or anyone) could help more women meet their high standards (as opposed to lowering them) would be more internships/etc. focused on women and whatever skills it is determined they systemically lack (could be negotiation, leadership - just speculating). Considering college students are disproportionately female these days, a higher number of female interns actually makes sense to me for reasons of pure mathematical proportion as previously referenced.

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"Too little too late" -- ya, go tell that to an entire generation how we'll have a do-over NEXT generation.
"Is just less interested" -- it's easy to be less interested when you're told your whole life that you can't or when you have no or few role models showing success is possible
"We need to work on these issues everywhere" -- ya, good luck convincing men in a position of power and influence to become "interested" in low paying jobs women have traditionally taken because men don't want them
A lot of research suggests that a more balanced workforce yields huge economic gains. So as a society we have a huge incentive to work towards gender parity.
And let me conclude by saying how pleased I am to hear my colleagues here all in agreement on something that should be really not controversial and how pleased people like this manager and s& have no place in a company like mck. You wouldn't fit in.

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I'll bet McKinsey is kicking themselves hard that they missed out on S&1

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Because your company decided to interview 100% of the female applicants in my B-school class for FT recruiting and less than 50% of the male applicants. Fuck you guys and your bullshit diversity metrics.

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Hey s& maybe if your competence was as strong as your fucking attitude and saltiness you would have gotten an interview. Jesus Christ, you work at a good firm, get the fuck over yourself

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Haha, everybody that friendly at &?

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S&1 McKinsey hires now a roughly 50/50 split of male to female. I think as a firm we still have a very long way to go with regards to trajectory once at the firm, but it is something I and many of my colleagues are proud of. Based on your difficulty internalizing the importance of gender parity, it seems fitting that you were not welcomed. You would only have detracted from one of the firms core missions.

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Picked Accenture from undergrad because they promised mentoring, and had an overtime policy in place - told us over and over we would get paid overtime for more than 40 hours a week. AAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LIES

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Loving the people saying S&1 is incompetent when he didn't even get an interview. If his numbers are accurate (definitely not unprecedented) then it has nothing to do with his competence or lack thereof. Plus it's not like the firm he got hired by isn't selective. People just don't like to admit that these types of experiences are also discrimination, because it's against men and probably a white one.

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I took a nap and when I woke up I was at the client site

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I like green.

But really, I love the people. Met a bunch from different firms and loved the culture and personalities matched mine a lot.

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S& you are so salty. Men, especially white men, don't have a single foot to stand on in the face of discrimination. Your gender has taken advantage of women for centuries, and because you did not get one interview (perhaps because you were unqualified for it), you blame the system? You know well enough that fewer women enter b-school than men, fewer women enter graduate classes of consulting associate programs than men, fewer women are in senior leadership positions than men. Yet, because of one random anecdote, you believe the system discriminates against YOU? You're a fucking joke.

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S& also wasn't in the top 50% of male applicants from his school. Doesn't say much about him.

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1. Deloitte happened to give slightly more money than my other offer
2. Deloitte had more travel as a part of the job
3. Deloitte had better brand equity compared to the other firm (smaller)
4. I liked people at both firms but felt like I had to pretend to be someone I wasn't at the other firm (super bro-y) whereas at Deloitte I've been able to be me without worrying about fitting in
5. Similarly to why I chose my college, Deloitte has its hands in everything so there's a huge amount of variety in the direction you can take your career

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Interesting that nobody at McK, white males included, is complaining about their less qualified/capable female colleagues. The reality is that as a firm, when you hire somewhere around 2% of applicants from target business schools anyway (and I've seen the stats, it's in that neighborhood), you can be choosy about creating diversity, because you have an overflow of capable candidates. I don't think it's news to anybody here that there are more capable people than McKinsey has slots to hire. Therefore, as a preferred destination, you have the luxury of pursuing hints like gender parity without sacrificing quality

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This thread is making me somewhat regret my decision to decline McK. Kudos to M-OP/1/2 for fighting the good fight, but it's likely not worth it here. And S& - you're embarrassing yourself and your firm. Take a time out and re-read this convo in the near future when you calm down.

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Industry. I wanted to be in pharma so there's no better place (imo)

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That's an unfair metric. Males have to be in top 50%, while females don't?

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The guy from Deloitte wouldn't shut up about his Porsche

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I went to an M7 bschool, so to all of you aspiring MBA applicants, know that there is a tax on having the XY chromosome. Oh and by the way @M1, it had nothing to do with top 50% or bottom 50% of male applicants. Rejections were highly correlated with office location. A disproportionate number - US offices.

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