Why do boomers assume that everyone wants to continue on the corporate rat race forever? My uncle is f500 exec and he said “you’ll be an exec one day” to me and I said “no I won’t” because that sounds absolutely miserable. His response was “have some confidence!”

I’m 3 years into this slog and I feel like I’ve already wasted too much of my life staring at excel sheets for 80 hours a week waiting for someone to tell me I’m ready to be promoted and get a raise. The money ain’t worth it.

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yea i just want to be a farmer and compete in largest vegetable competitions

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I figured it must be a different climate zone. Pretty late in the season to just be getting your first tomatoes and peppers. Looks good though, not hating. I have a similar garden setup and chickens too!

Trying to hit a number, then become a park ranger.

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Not becoming a Park Ranger in the first place is my biggest regret

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I think in the past, the money was more worth it than it is today. Not sure why. But I think it's true, our priorities have shifted

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Well now you can live anywhere. Problem solved!

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So what do you want to do? Go do it

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I think that’s what they were alluding to.

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Because the world was different. Not too long ago you joined a firm in your 20’s, retired in your 60’s with a fat pension that would protect you forever. My Dad’s pension from Chrysler was ridiculous.

With the advent of the 401K and the demise of pensions, you now have to look out for yourself and loyalty is worthless.

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Glad you have this awareness 3 years in. Took far too long for me to really come to terms the corporate life wasn’t for me.

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Probably because you just said "no I won't" with no details. It's an odd snippy response tbh

His message was that you are smart / capable enough to become an executive someday and you took it as "your goal in life is to become an executive"

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Easy for a bunch of workaholics to say. Finding what you want in life without unhindered exploration is challenging, no matter what age. But thank goodness it was so easy for you since we prioritize business in this country!

Execs aren’t staring at excel all day, so there’s that.

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This is Faust false EY1. Usually meetings and discussions.

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I’m not a Boomer, but I interpret what you said as “I don’t want to do grunt work. I want to make decisions and do things that *I* consider valuable and worthy.” But you’re a junior person doing grunt work because that’s what junior people do in every profession. And I know it’s not helpful to hear, but every one of us older people has been where you are. You just have to decide for yourself if you can stick it out long enough to get to the point where you’re trusted to make decisions instead of just carrying out those made by others.

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Love this thoughtful response 🌟

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Typical millennial, whining about the boomers. You make your destiny, stop blaming other generations. Figure your own shit out!

Love a Gen Xer

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Normally, I can relate to you D5 but cut the crap. Not everyone wakes up every morning with coffee and hair putty in hand saying “I know what I wanna do today!” This is supposed to be a thought-provoking conversation, not a “mad at the world” kind of complaint. You so happy with your life? Then this convo clearly doesn’t apply to you.

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This kind of money is definitely worth it for me. I think it really depends on how much you like what you do. If you don’t, do something else :)

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Does this mean your making 1M Partner?

Yeah I did 3 years and that was more than enough. Wish it had been less because I spent my early 20s working like a dog.

That said, I’m out and living a way more balanced life. I work at a start up now, make a bit less, and do work hard at times. But I give a shit about what I do!

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What industry is the start up in?

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You’re welcome to quit and go weave baskets from hemp if you want. I’ll take the mid 6 figures pay and enjoy my new cabin.

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Bruh your elitist attitude is why we left your cabin 😂 if you so happy with your life, why you out here “proving” that to everyone else? Live your life and let others live theirs.

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This way of life is not sustainable. PLEASE make sure your generation tells ours to f off and find a better way. Do not lose your life to work.

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Not sure, but I stopped looking to Boomers as a source of wisdom around the time they found Facebook. Hard to believe we survived as a country based on their posts. Most of these people were deeply influential to me growing up, but now all seem to spend their day spreading political conspiracy theories about politics, race, covid-19, and other generations all day. Don’t know if they have much to offer, as a collective cohort.

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Work to live or live to work 🤷🏼‍♂️

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Yeah...honestly I used to be so ambitious and motivated, and after I got my MA and started earning a pretty decent salary I thought to myself “do I really care about money and power so much that getting to C-suite one day is a goal I’ll grind everyday for?” The answer to myself was a hard “no.” I don’t want the responsibility of running a company, and I’d be so busy that I wouldn’t be able to use the high salary to do things that I love to do now, like travel recreationally. At some point, you just have to think about what’s most important to you.

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1. Your uncle doesn’t represent all Boomers
2. He just wanted to be supportive . He could have as well said you will become a great entrepreneur or banker or drug dealer - whatever is the kind of greatness you consider ideal . You seem to not have the ability to extrapolate and took it literally
3. It doesn’t matter what the line of work is - if you are just three years into it, you do grunt work . That’s how you learn the basics so that later you can stare at such work - you can make good decisions faster . This is normal - but you can’t seem to reconcile with that reality
4. You clearly don’t represent all youngsters . Most are smart enough to recognize all this
5. Being an executive is not “absolutely miserable”. You are not one and it looks like you have no idea what comes with it .
6. Grow up !

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C8 - very fair position to take . I don’t like grunt work either - but I do it when the trade off favors me doing it

I had this conversation with my boss recently.

They suggested that I need to increase my visibility to reach L8 and I joked that their job and managing all the politics and personalities looked terrible. On the plus side, I’m not a threat.

I am an L7, they’re an L8 (For context L8 at Amazon is similar to VP at most large companies and C-Suite in small/midsize)

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A1 can I DM you? Currently a SM and would like more information about your role/responsibilities/WLB

I pretty much have two goals in life:

1) retire as soon a possible to do all the things I love to do (travel, golf, spend time with my family and friends, watch sports)
2) make sure the people I love are taken care of

To do that you need money. Jobs that allow you to do that AND have a good time at work are few and far between.

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