Why do people not even want to consider folks who were not born and raised in US when looking for marriage ? M27, in US since I was 20

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27 Female, I know for me it comes down to certain things. For instance I have more progressive views when it comes to rights for women, minorities, lgbtq, as well as other issues. In my personal experience with my family back in Pakistan or someone who moved here later in life there are some beliefs that dont align with mine or what I need from a life partner or how I want to raise my kids. Its also kind of the struggle of not being pakistani enough in my case or not american enough in another. I dont think anyone can really understand that unless they were in the same shoes. Additionally, I think there are different expectations. Ofcourse it depends on the person, but I know like I cant cook, my urdus rough, and I just feel a bit judged for being myself which isnt the archetypal Pakistani female. I just think their may be a sense of judgement from someone who wasnt born and raised here which I have experienced from my family back hone. I guess I just want to be with someone who has had similar experiences to me being desi and muslim and growing up in this country.

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For me, it's about having a similar mindset and relatability. I have plenty of friends that are from India/Pakistan but their idea of a relationship or family roles has normally differed quite a bit from my own. That's not to say it's all individuals born and raised there, and you'll see that difference in some people who were born and raised in the states too. But I'd rather just start my search by looking for someone who has had similar experiences in some way that comes from being raised in the states or abroad at least. I'm personally looking for someone practicing, but even when it comes to practicing I've seen a lot of differences between culture being mixed in heavily with religion to the point where I'm just uncomfortable from individuals back in India/Pakistan.

I don't really see the issue anyway - everyone has preferences, you can't be upset for someone's preferences to not include you in it. I'm sure you have preferences in a partner that would eliminate some potentials too.

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Born and Raised in US, M, here - a lot of the times it comes down to relatability. Being born and raised here a lot of Muslims have gone through some sort of identity crisis trying to figure out where they fit in and in addition adjusting to how much to and not to assimilate with non Muslims in terms of culture. A lot of times you want someone that full understands that struggle - thats why people born and raised here look for the same

In addition there is stigma on marrying or getting with someone from India/Pakistan/etc., because people there are looking to come to the US for opportunities and hence it becomes this idea that “oh you couldn’t find someone in the US so you went abroad where people will line up to get with you for the green card” - which is sad but the stigma is real

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In my conversations with most people it's the aspect that people are just looking for a green card that comes into play.

I feel like people should talk to the person and give a chance to find out how they feel about the person. If they make a blanket decision saying they'll never talk to someone who doesn't have a green card or something they may both be possibly missing out on a chance to have something wonderful.

Yeah this is something very common. M here too, lived in several countries but not born and raised in the US.

The reason I've been given is cultural differences but I am probably more practicing than cultural. Ive been told by most of them that men usually born and raised in the US are not as practicing and that I fit all the criteria. My world view, language, accent everything is all good but still they just can't accept the fact that someone can fit in all their criteria and not be from here.

It's been so bad that a few of them reached back after things with their US born and raised guy didn't go well lol.

All I can say is messed up priorities man.

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I think by cultural differences they meant American culture vs Pakistani culture. Not cultural or practicing in the religious context

For me, I definitely prefer potential partners who have spent their formative years in the West rather than in Nigeria. There are cultural attitudes that affect the course of a relationship, that are quite difficult to break without significant amounts of work and unlearning. However, if I found someone who fulfilled all of my personal requirements but was born and raised in Nigeria, I wouldn’t turn them away.

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25 F It’s the fear of being used for a green card and then asked to uproot your life to move back or better yet a 2nd wife back home, the cultural differences (even if not individuals but between the larger families), stereotypical gender roles, lack of shared interests and experiences.

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Alhamdulilah I imported

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I think its just that you want to find someone who understands the environment in which you were brought up and the general culture you're used to.. not from the US but I do have a similar requirement for the region I've been brought up in

Halal haram ratio 🤣

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Cuz Muslims suffer from a constant inferiority complex and this would only add to it. #theTruth

It’s def cultural relatability and it’s also citizenship. Like it takes a lot of time and effort and stress to get a green card. That shit is not easy and having to wait on your man to get a green card to freely travel etc. can be very nerve wrecking. And also a trigger if you had to go through it with your parents

Born and raised in Pakistan M here. Came to US for college over 10 years ago. Why do you care? Find a good educated girl from Pakistan and your life is set. I have seen a lot of Born and raised who were ok dating a foreign born and some didn’t. So it doesn’t apply to many. For the ones it applies to have either seen or have gone through a lot of struggles. Leave them alone as they try to figure things out.

It depends on how well you can connect with someone.

If you have not lived much in your country of birth for a long time you may find that you are unable to connect with someone there ( back home), but may connect better with someone who was raised or has lived in the same country as you're living in.

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It’s the accent bruh

Makes sense, get the perspective. Just hard individually for me, since I came here when I was 20. I guess for girls back in India I would be too “westernized” and for girls here I am too desi 🤦‍♂️

It is true, I've been in the same boat. I left India when I was 21 and have lived in 2 order countries after that. So most of my life experience as an adult has been outside if my home country.

People usually fail to understand and acknowledge that you may still feel disconnected to the very culture you were born into and your perspective is not just shaped by where you have lived but also your own intellect.

Long post I know. But as an Indian who moved abroad at the age of 21 and have lived in the west for close to 15 years, I totally understand your point of view.

And yes - the feeling of being not enough desi for indians and not enough american for americans is something that I understand all too well. Ironically, I've found white women to be more open towards me than the desi americans.

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I have always been a girl who had many friends and was never alone.
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