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Why do some companies ask for 8+ YoE + MBA for mid-management positions (Manager, Sr. manager, Associate, Sr. Associate). At 8 YoE the super talented people would probably be looking for director level roles. Wouldn’t it be better to get them at like 3-5YoE?

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I mean I’m a 40 yo M with 20+ yoe — was always top of my class, etc. Life happens, so no - 8 yoe+ are not always/often at Director level.

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You started working as a consultant before you were 20?

More experienced candidates at a lower cost. Not everyone is going to be an SM/D at 30

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I think this depends on what you classify as YoE. I have 10 years of professional work experience but just started consulting at an SA level post-MBA. This SA job is a step up in pay but serious step down in title & responsibility. So, to your point, maybe that posting is for someone like me haha.

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Does it hurt to ask? The firm benefits getting an overqualified candidate. Its kinda like the posts here bragging on their salaries with 2 or less yoe. I also know a fair number of talented people who have moved pretty far up the ladder but needed a while to do so. Its not so simple as all the top talent will be looking for director spots.

Perhaps you came in with your own biases and didn’t actually take in the argument The argument was that if you look at everyone with 8YoE experience, the top performers (maybe the top 10%) will not be looking for manager roles but rather Director level roles (idfk how this is disparaging them if I am saying they’ll be at a higher level) With that, if you as a Company post that the most basic requirement is 8YoE for a manager role you are basically crossing out those people. Now if you want to argue that directors with 8YoE are incompetent than you’d have to revise who’s disparaging people here Case in point is Tech, consulting and IB firsm asking for very specific experience (I.e 3+ years working on blockchain with 2+ years managing people) or a lot of them not specifying experience requirements at all

most companies don’t do up or out every 2 years, so 8 years of boring experience + online MBA sounds about right for your typical manager

Because outside of the insular niche that is consulting, 8 YOE tends to be manager level, maybe senior manager level at best. Having been on both sides of the house, and having been an exec in industry for about 10 years total now, there's not a chance I'm hiring someone with 8 YOE as a director, no matter their consulting pedigree, unless it's an IC role with no P&L responsibility.

OP, what a terrible take. You really have no clue

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